{"id":2095,"date":"2024-07-23T19:33:48","date_gmt":"2024-07-23T19:33:48","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/edmundsimsa.com\/?p=2095"},"modified":"2024-08-02T20:25:02","modified_gmt":"2024-08-02T20:25:02","slug":"guntis-ulmanis-partijam-jaizslimo-masalas","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/edmundsimsa.com\/?p=2095","title":{"rendered":"Guntis Ulmanis: Partij\u0101m j\u0101izslimo “masalas”!"},"content":{"rendered":"\t\t
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Edmunds Im\u0161a, J. Rim\u0161\u0101ns – R\u012bgas Balss<\/em><\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t

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Latvijas pirmais Valsts prezidents p\u0113c neatkar\u012bbas atjauno\u0161anas – Guntis Ulmanis vakar RB \u017eurn\u0101listiem J\u0101nim Rim\u0161\u0101nam un Edmundam Im\u0161am R\u012bgas pil\u012b sniedza savu p\u0113d\u0113jo interviju prezident\u016bras laik\u0101. Starp daudz\u0101m da\u017e\u0101d\u0101m liet\u0101m RB uzdeva jaut\u0101jumus ar\u012b par visaktu\u0101l\u0101ko lietu – premjerministra Vi\u013ca Kri\u0161topana demisiju. Prezidents kopum\u0101 ir p\u0101rliecin\u0101ts, ka V.Kri\u0161topans ir r\u012bkojies pareizi, un uzskata, ka jaun\u0101 vald\u012bba j\u0101veido Andra \u0160\u0137\u0113les vad\u012btajai Tautas partijai, \u00abT\u0113vzemei un Br\u012bv\u012bbai\u00bb\/LNNK un \u00abLatvijas ce\u013cam\u00bb. \u0160\u0101du vald\u012bbas modeli, diem\u017e\u0113l nesekm\u012bgi, G.Ulmanis pied\u0101v\u0101jis jau p\u0113c 7.Saeimas v\u0113l\u0113\u0161an\u0101m. G.Ulmanis ar\u012b uzskata, ka n\u0101kamo premjerministru nosauks vi\u0146a amata p\u0113cn\u0101c\u0113ja Vaira V\u012b\u0137e – Freiberga.<\/p>

P\u0101r\u0113jo intervijas da\u013cu par prezidenta uzskatiem, dz\u012bvesveidu un v\u0113rt\u0113jumiem lasiet r\u012bt RB atv\u0113rum\u0101!<\/p>

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E.I.: – K\u0101d\u0113\u013c m\u016bsu vald\u012bbu m\u016b\u017es ir tik neilgs?<\/p>

G.U.: – Politiskie sp\u0113ki Latvij\u0101 nav stabili. Ir skaidrs, ka pie \u0161\u0101da partiju vesel\u012bbas st\u0101vok\u013ca jebkur\u0161 kandid\u0101ts, kas n\u0101k no to vidus, var notur\u0113ties zin\u0101mu laiku, p\u0113c tam politiskie sp\u0113ki atkal sav\u0101 starp\u0101 nopietnu vai maz\u0101k nopietnu iemeslu d\u0113\u013c s\u0101k konflikt\u0113t. Un amatpersonas? Piem\u0113ram, \u0161\u012bs vald\u012bbas kri\u0161ana nav Vi\u013ca Kri\u0161topana probl\u0113ma. T\u0101pat k\u0101 prezidenta kandid\u0101tu izv\u0113l\u0113 un noteik\u0161an\u0101 svar\u012bga bija nevis katra kandidat\u016bra, bet gan politisko sp\u0113ku vieno\u0161an\u0101s. T\u0101, piem\u0113ram, m\u0113s m\u0113ne\u0161iem debat\u0113j\u0101m par \u010detr\u0101m kandidat\u016br\u0101m, bet p\u0113c tam 24 stund\u0101s izvirz\u012bj\u0101m un apstiprin\u0101j\u0101m kandid\u0101ti – bez iepaz\u012b\u0161an\u0101s, bez debat\u0113m un \u0161\u012bs kandidat\u016bras apsprie\u0161anas. Tas noz\u012bm\u0113, ka politisko sp\u0113ku r\u012bc\u012bba ne vienm\u0113r ir p\u0101rdom\u0101ta un stabila, k\u0101 to prasa politisk\u0101 kult\u016bra att\u012bst\u012bt\u0101s Rietumeiropas valst\u012bs. \u0160odienas vald\u012bbas kr\u012bze ir vado\u0161o politisko sp\u0113ku jeb parlamenta vado\u0161o partiju iek\u0161\u0113ja kr\u012bze. \u00abT\u0113vzemei un Br\u012bv\u012bbai\u00bb\/LNNK, soci\u0101ldemokr\u0101tu, \u00abLatvijas ce\u013ca\u00bb kr\u012bze. Vien\u012bg\u0101 partija, kas notur\u0113ja iek\u0161\u0113jo stabilit\u0101ti, ir Tautas partija, atrazdam\u0101s opoz\u012bcij\u0101, kas ar\u012b tai \u013c\u0101va notur\u0113t \u0161o stabilit\u0101ti. Bet p\u0101r\u0113j\u0101s partijas iek\u0161\u0113jo pretrunu d\u0113\u013c burtiski da\u017e\u0101s dien\u0101s izjauca koal\u012bciju.<\/p>

E.I.: – Bet citu partiju mums nav, j\u0101dz\u012bvo ar t\u0101m pa\u0161\u0101m\u2026<\/p>

G.U.: – T\u0101m j\u0101izslimo \u00abmasalas\u00bb, ar kur\u0101m t\u0101s \u0161oned\u0113\u013c slimo. Ceru, ka p\u0113c \u0161\u012bs v\u012brusu slim\u012bbas, kura t\u0101s p\u0101r\u0146\u0113musi p\u0113d\u0113j\u0101 laik\u0101, partijas k\u013c\u016bs stipr\u0101kas, im\u016bnas un ar\u012b veidosies stabil\u0101kas. Turkl\u0101t da\u017eas partijas veidojas bez pietiekamas ideolo\u0123isk\u0101s b\u0101zes, un t\u0101s p\u0113c zin\u0101ma laika paz\u016bd no partiju apv\u0101r\u0161\u0146a. \u0160obr\u012bd jau veidojas partijas ar noteiktu novirzienu – vai tas b\u016btu soci\u0101ldemokr\u0101tiskais, krist\u012bgi konservat\u012bvais vai liber\u0101lais, un \u0161ie pamatprincipi arvien vair\u0101k ieiet partiju aprit\u0113. Turkl\u0101t cilv\u0113ki, kas ir \u0161aj\u0101s partij\u0101s, n\u0101ca, bie\u017ei vien nezin\u0101dami, kur un k\u0101 vi\u0146i iet, vi\u0146iem vienk\u0101r\u0161i bija v\u0113lme darboties k\u0101d\u0101 partij\u0101. Vi\u0146i arvien vair\u0101k p\u0101rliecin\u0101s, kam ir der\u012bgi – \u0161ai vai citai partijai. Visp\u0101r j\u016bs run\u0101jat t\u0101d\u0101 gaisotn\u0113, it k\u0101 es jau b\u016btu br\u012bvs cilv\u0113ks, bet \u0161is ar\u012b ir memu\u0101ru jaut\u0101jums – mani v\u0113rojumi par se\u0161u septi\u0146u gadu politisko sp\u0113ku att\u012bst\u012bbas gaitu. Man ir ko sal\u012bdzin\u0101t, k\u0101 partijas diskut\u0113ja pirms se\u0161iem gadiem un k\u0101 t\u0101s diskut\u0113 \u0161odien. Dom\u0101ju, ka Latvija p\u0113d\u0113jos desmit gados ekonomiski, politiski un ar\u012b starptautiski ir k\u013cuvusi \u013coti sp\u0113c\u012bga. \u0160odien, piem\u0113ram, sa\u0146\u0113mu Somijas prezidenta Ahtis\u0101ri v\u0113st\u012bjumu, kur\u0101 teikts, ka Latvija p\u0113d\u0113jos desmit gados visos b\u016btisk\u0101kajos jaut\u0101jumos ir stabila un labi att\u012bst\u012bjusies. Varb\u016bt tas, ka tie\u0161i \u0161odien main\u0101s vald\u012bbas, var\u0113tu noteikt \u0161\u0101 gadsimta beigu un gadsimta s\u0101kuma vald\u012bbu virzienus.<\/p>

Kopum\u0101 j\u0101saka: es person\u012bgi nekad ne ar vienu politi\u0137i neesmu non\u0101cis bezcer\u012bg\u0101 konflikt\u0101, ne tuvu tam, k\u0101d\u0101 ir non\u0101ku\u0161i politi\u0137i Saeim\u0101 \u0161\u012bs vald\u012bbas kr\u012bzes laik\u0101.<\/p>

E.I.: – K\u0101d\u0113\u013c politi\u0137i mums ir tik ka\u0161\u0137\u012bgi?<\/p>

G.U.: – \u0160is jaut\u0101jums ir no citas operas – vai nu t\u0101 ir g\u0113nu m\u0101c\u012bba, fiziolo\u0123ija vai k\u0101das citas m\u0101c\u012bbas – par raksturiem un to, k\u0101di visp\u0101r cilv\u0113ki ir – citi ir mier\u012bgi, citi ne tik l\u012bdzsvaroti. Kaut gan \u0161is parlaments b\u016bt\u012bb\u0101 ir l\u012bdzsvarots un diezgan mier\u012bgs. Ir jaut\u0101jums par politisko partiju slim\u012bb\u0101m partiju m\u0113rog\u0101, nevis cilv\u0113cisk\u0101 person\u0101liju m\u0113rog\u0101.<\/p>

J.R.: – Da\u017ek\u0101rt \u0161\u0137iet, ka j\u016bs p\u0101rlieku cen\u0161aties iev\u0113rot atgriezenisk\u0101s saites ar politi\u0137iem un esat apzin\u0101ti vair\u012bjies no konfliktiem. Vai vienm\u0113r tas ir bijis pareizi?<\/p>

G.U.: – Noteikt\u0101k r\u012bkoties man nebija vajadz\u012bbas. Man nebija Lietuvas varianta, nebija \u0161\u0101das situ\u0101cijas. Nevienam vald\u012bbas vad\u012bt\u0101jam es nevar\u0113ju p\u0101rmest kaut ko l\u012bdz\u012bgu tam, ko mans kol\u0113\u0123is bija spiests p\u0101rmest kaimi\u0146os. Nav bijusi t\u0101da vajadz\u012bba. Bet\u2026 neteiksim vis! Atcerieties m\u016bsu attiec\u012bbas ar Andri \u0160\u0137\u0113li, atcerieties, k\u0101d\u0113\u013c demision\u0113ja Valdis Birkavs. Bet tas nebija m\u016bsu person\u012bgais naids vai pretrunas, tas bija str\u012bds par objekt\u012bviem valsts att\u012bst\u012bbas procesiem! Prezidenta loma konstitucion\u0101li ir paredz\u0113ta t\u0101da, k\u0101du es to esmu centies iev\u0113rot. Mans pamats ir konstit\u016bcijas burts, un jebkurai valsts amatpersonai, atk\u0101pjoties no konstit\u016bcijas, rodas neizb\u0113gams konflikts. Ar\u012b n\u0101kotn\u0113 prezidentam nen\u0101ksies iejaukties ekonomiskos procesos, vair\u0101k b\u016bs j\u0101dom\u0101, k\u0101 es to dar\u012bju, par m\u016bsu sabiedr\u012bbas saska\u0146u, gar\u012bg\u0101m interes\u0113m, noska\u0146ojumu, garast\u0101vokli. Jo prezidents nevar populistiski iziet sabiedr\u012bb\u0101 un teikt: vald\u012bba ir t\u0101da vai vald\u012bba ir \u0161\u0101da. Prezidentam vai nu j\u0101grie\u017eas pie vald\u012bbas ar konkr\u0113tiem ieteikumiem, vai ar\u012b \u0161\u012b vald\u012bba ir j\u0101aizst\u0101v. Kritiz\u0113t bez darb\u012bbas – tas b\u016btu bezm\u0113r\u0137\u012bgi, tas noz\u012bm\u0113 padar\u012bt valsti no malas smiekl\u012bgu. Jo t\u0101l\u0101k m\u0113s ejam, jo m\u016bsu r\u012bc\u012bba k\u013c\u016bst saska\u0146ot\u0101ka ar cit\u0101m Eiropas valst\u012bm. Prezidentam j\u0101dara tas, ko esmu dar\u012bjis visus \u0161os gadus, veidojot Latvijas modeli atbilst\u012bgu ES modelim. Nekad neesmu r\u012bkojies, amb\u012bciju vai populisma vad\u012bts. N\u0101vessods, referendums, armijas izve\u0161ana, pilson\u012bbas likums – tie visi bija vald\u012bbas un prezidenta p\u0101rdom\u0101ti r\u012bc\u012bbas mot\u012bvi. Ja j\u016bs var\u0113tu man p\u0101rmest k\u013c\u016bdu, kas bijusi b\u016btiska valsts att\u012bst\u012bb\u0101, tad es paliktu diezgan dom\u012bgs un iepaz\u012btos ar to k\u0101 ar jaunatkl\u0101jumu.<\/p>

J.R.: – \u012asi pirms 17. j\u016bnija k\u0101d\u0101 intervij\u0101 j\u016bs teic\u0101t: Kri\u0161topana vald\u012bba ir stabila, es neredzu alternat\u012bvas \u0161ai vald\u012bbai, t\u0101d\u0113\u013c t\u0101 j\u0101stiprina. Tom\u0113r tai pa\u0161\u0101 laik\u0101 sabiedr\u012bbas aptaujas liecin\u0101ja par pret\u0113jo, ka vald\u012bba nav stabila. Vai j\u016bs neesat mazliet ar savu nost\u0101ju maldin\u0101jis sabiedr\u012bbu? Varb\u016bt nevajadz\u0113ja b\u016bt tik saudz\u012bgam un gl\u0101sto\u0161am v\u0113rt\u0113jumos?<\/p>

G.U.: – Piekr\u012btu, piekr\u012btu, piekr\u012btu.<\/p>

E.I.: – Kur\u0161 nosauks n\u0101kamo premjerministru – j\u016bs vai Vaira V\u012b\u0137e – Freiberga?<\/p>

G.U.: – Politisk\u0101 lo\u0123ika un pieredze mani mudina dom\u0101t, ka tas b\u016btu j\u0101izdara n\u0101kamajai prezidentei. Pieredze un politisk\u0101 lo\u0123ika. Da\u017ereiz gan dz\u012bve norisin\u0101s ne p\u0113c pieredzes un lo\u0123ikas principiem, bet p\u0113c diezgan impuls\u012bvas notikumu gaitas. \u0160ai mirkl\u012b es t\u0101dus nep\u0101rdom\u0101tus, straujus un temperament\u012bgus impulsus neredzu. Prognoz\u0113ju, ka partijas diezgan r\u016bp\u012bgi apspried\u012bs savu situ\u0101ciju, jo \u00abT\u0113vzemei un Br\u012bv\u012bbai\u00bb\/LNNK un Tautas partijai premjera demisija ir diezgan negaid\u012bts g\u0101jiens. Vi\u0146i to piepras\u012bja, bet dom\u0101ja, ka v\u0113l drusci\u0146\u2026<\/p>

J.R.: – ..un Kri\u0161topanu aizvad\u012bs ar vi\u0146u sag\u0101d\u0101to negodu\u2026<\/p>

G.U: -\u2026 j\u0101, j\u0101, tie\u0161i t\u0101. Un Kri\u0161topans t\u0101d\u0101 situ\u0101cij\u0101, kad ir pie\u0146emts konkr\u0113ts dokuments – viena no partij\u0101m, atrazdam\u0101s koal\u012bcij\u0101, sl\u0113dz ar opoz\u012bcijas partiju piln\u012bgi pret\u0113ju, citu dokumentu, protams, premjers t\u0101d\u0101 br\u012bd\u012b vairs nevar\u0113ja b\u016bt par premjeru, jo vi\u0146a situ\u0101cija ir nodota. Viens no koal\u012bcijas balstiem ir nosl\u0113dzis l\u012bgumu ar opoz\u012bcijas partiju! Nevar b\u016bt valst\u012b divu koal\u012bcijas l\u012bgumu vai divu vald\u012bbas darb\u012bbas l\u012bgumu! Faktiski \u00abT\u0113vzemes\u00bb un Tautas partijas l\u012bgums ir vald\u012bbas darb\u012bbas programma un r\u012bc\u012bbas programma, ko vi\u0146i jau ir sast\u0101d\u012bju\u0161i. Kri\u0161topana kungs, atk\u0101pdamies (neanaliz\u0113sim, vai tas nav par v\u0113lu un k\u0101da var\u0113ja b\u016bt cita darb\u012bba) padar\u012bja iesp\u0113jamus visus variantus. Tagad, p\u0113c lo\u0123ikas un politisk\u0101s kult\u016bras, vajadz\u0113tu partij\u0101m k\u0101das dienas apspriesties. Bet man\u0101 r\u012bc\u012bb\u0101 ir divas dienas. Tas ac\u012bmredzot ir par maz. Jaunajai prezidentei b\u016bs ar \u0161o vald\u012bbu j\u0101str\u0101d\u0101. B\u016btu labi, ja jaun\u0101 prezidente var\u0113tu ar\u012b nosaukt \u0161o vald\u012bbu, reiz\u0113 iepaz\u012bstoties ar partiju motiv\u0101ciju un argument\u0101ciju.<\/p>

E.I.: – K\u0101ds, j\u016bsupr\u0101t, b\u016btu lab\u0101kais variants?<\/p>

G.U.: – Pare\u0123o\u0161ana vienm\u0113r ir nepateic\u012bga lieta, bet es dom\u0101ju, ka \u0161eit (n\u0101kamaj\u0101 koal\u012bcij\u0101. – E.I.) var\u0113tu b\u016bt Tautas partija, \u00abLatvijas ce\u013c\u0161\u00bb un \u00abT\u0113vzemei un Br\u012bv\u012bbai\u00bb\/LNNK. Es to teicu jau p\u0113c Saeimas v\u0113l\u0113\u0161an\u0101m, aicin\u0101ju, mudin\u0101ju, bet tas man neizdev\u0101s. P\u0113c v\u0113l\u0113\u0161anu rezult\u0101tiem \u0161\u012bm trim partij\u0101m b\u016btu j\u0101sast\u0101da vald\u012bba.<\/p>

E.I.: – Vai t\u0101s sp\u0113s vienoties?<\/p>

G.U.: – Tas ir cits jaut\u0101jums.<\/p>

J.R.: – Politik\u0101 r\u012bc\u012bbas mot\u012bvs – augstpr\u0101t\u012bba – ac\u012bmredzot ir \u0101rk\u0101rt\u012bgi nera\u017e\u012bgs?<\/p>

G.U.: – Diem\u017e\u0113l politik\u0101 t\u0101 past\u0101v visvair\u0101k. Augstpr\u0101t\u012bba politik\u0101 ir visvair\u0101k nov\u0113rojam\u0101 par\u0101d\u012bba. Augstpr\u0101t\u012bba nav labojama lieta, ja k\u0101dam t\u0101 ir, tad ir. Tas ir negl\u0101bjami. Tas ir \u0161\u016bpul\u012b ielikts.<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t

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Partij\u0101m j\u0101izslimo “masalas” Edmunds Im\u0161a, J. Rim\u0161\u0101ns – R\u012bgas Balss Latvijas pirmais Valsts prezidents p\u0113c neatkar\u012bbas atjauno\u0161anas – Guntis Ulmanis vakar RB \u017eurn\u0101listiem J\u0101nim Rim\u0161\u0101nam un Edmundam Im\u0161am R\u012bgas pil\u012b sniedza savu p\u0113d\u0113jo interviju prezident\u016bras laik\u0101. Starp daudz\u0101m da\u017e\u0101d\u0101m liet\u0101m RB uzdeva jaut\u0101jumus ar\u012b par visaktu\u0101l\u0101ko lietu – premjerministra Vi\u013ca Kri\u0161topana demisiju. Prezidents kopum\u0101 ir p\u0101rliecin\u0101ts, ka V.Kri\u0161topans ir r\u012bkojies pareizi, un uzskata, ka jaun\u0101 vald\u012bba j\u0101veido Andra \u0160\u0137\u0113les vad\u012btajai Tautas partijai, \u00abT\u0113vzemei un Br\u012bv\u012bbai\u00bb\/LNNK un \u00abLatvijas ce\u013cam\u00bb. \u0160\u0101du vald\u012bbas modeli, diem\u017e\u0113l nesekm\u012bgi, G.Ulmanis pied\u0101v\u0101jis jau p\u0113c 7.Saeimas v\u0113l\u0113\u0161an\u0101m. G.Ulmanis ar\u012b uzskata, ka n\u0101kamo premjerministru nosauks vi\u0146a amata p\u0113cn\u0101c\u0113ja Vaira V\u012b\u0137e – Freiberga. P\u0101r\u0113jo intervijas da\u013cu par prezidenta uzskatiem, dz\u012bvesveidu un v\u0113rt\u0113jumiem lasiet r\u012bt RB atv\u0113rum\u0101! \u00a0 E.I.: – K\u0101d\u0113\u013c m\u016bsu vald\u012bbu m\u016b\u017es ir tik neilgs? G.U.: – Politiskie sp\u0113ki Latvij\u0101 nav stabili. Ir skaidrs, ka pie \u0161\u0101da partiju vesel\u012bbas st\u0101vok\u013ca jebkur\u0161 kandid\u0101ts, kas n\u0101k no to vidus, var notur\u0113ties zin\u0101mu laiku, p\u0113c tam politiskie sp\u0113ki atkal sav\u0101 starp\u0101 nopietnu vai maz\u0101k nopietnu iemeslu d\u0113\u013c s\u0101k konflikt\u0113t. Un amatpersonas? Piem\u0113ram, \u0161\u012bs vald\u012bbas kri\u0161ana nav Vi\u013ca Kri\u0161topana probl\u0113ma. T\u0101pat k\u0101 prezidenta kandid\u0101tu izv\u0113l\u0113 un noteik\u0161an\u0101 svar\u012bga bija nevis katra kandidat\u016bra, bet gan politisko sp\u0113ku vieno\u0161an\u0101s. T\u0101, piem\u0113ram, m\u0113s m\u0113ne\u0161iem debat\u0113j\u0101m par \u010detr\u0101m kandidat\u016br\u0101m, bet p\u0113c tam 24 stund\u0101s izvirz\u012bj\u0101m un apstiprin\u0101j\u0101m kandid\u0101ti – bez iepaz\u012b\u0161an\u0101s, bez debat\u0113m un \u0161\u012bs kandidat\u016bras apsprie\u0161anas. Tas noz\u012bm\u0113, ka politisko sp\u0113ku r\u012bc\u012bba ne vienm\u0113r ir p\u0101rdom\u0101ta un stabila, k\u0101 to prasa politisk\u0101 kult\u016bra att\u012bst\u012bt\u0101s Rietumeiropas valst\u012bs. \u0160odienas vald\u012bbas kr\u012bze ir vado\u0161o politisko sp\u0113ku jeb parlamenta vado\u0161o partiju iek\u0161\u0113ja kr\u012bze. \u00abT\u0113vzemei un Br\u012bv\u012bbai\u00bb\/LNNK, soci\u0101ldemokr\u0101tu, \u00abLatvijas ce\u013ca\u00bb kr\u012bze. Vien\u012bg\u0101 partija, kas notur\u0113ja iek\u0161\u0113jo stabilit\u0101ti, ir Tautas partija, atrazdam\u0101s opoz\u012bcij\u0101, kas ar\u012b tai \u013c\u0101va notur\u0113t \u0161o stabilit\u0101ti. Bet p\u0101r\u0113j\u0101s partijas iek\u0161\u0113jo pretrunu d\u0113\u013c burtiski da\u017e\u0101s dien\u0101s izjauca koal\u012bciju. E.I.: – Bet citu partiju mums nav, j\u0101dz\u012bvo ar t\u0101m pa\u0161\u0101m\u2026 G.U.: – T\u0101m j\u0101izslimo \u00abmasalas\u00bb, ar kur\u0101m t\u0101s \u0161oned\u0113\u013c slimo. Ceru, ka p\u0113c \u0161\u012bs v\u012brusu slim\u012bbas, kura t\u0101s p\u0101r\u0146\u0113musi p\u0113d\u0113j\u0101 laik\u0101, partijas k\u013c\u016bs stipr\u0101kas, im\u016bnas un ar\u012b veidosies stabil\u0101kas. Turkl\u0101t da\u017eas partijas veidojas bez pietiekamas ideolo\u0123isk\u0101s b\u0101zes, un t\u0101s p\u0113c zin\u0101ma laika paz\u016bd no partiju apv\u0101r\u0161\u0146a. \u0160obr\u012bd jau veidojas partijas ar noteiktu novirzienu – vai tas b\u016btu soci\u0101ldemokr\u0101tiskais, krist\u012bgi konservat\u012bvais vai liber\u0101lais, un \u0161ie pamatprincipi arvien vair\u0101k ieiet partiju aprit\u0113. Turkl\u0101t cilv\u0113ki, kas ir \u0161aj\u0101s partij\u0101s, n\u0101ca, bie\u017ei vien nezin\u0101dami, kur un k\u0101 vi\u0146i iet, vi\u0146iem vienk\u0101r\u0161i bija v\u0113lme darboties k\u0101d\u0101 partij\u0101. Vi\u0146i arvien vair\u0101k p\u0101rliecin\u0101s, kam ir der\u012bgi – \u0161ai vai citai partijai. Visp\u0101r j\u016bs run\u0101jat t\u0101d\u0101 gaisotn\u0113, it k\u0101 es jau b\u016btu br\u012bvs cilv\u0113ks, bet \u0161is ar\u012b ir memu\u0101ru jaut\u0101jums – mani v\u0113rojumi par se\u0161u septi\u0146u gadu politisko sp\u0113ku att\u012bst\u012bbas gaitu. Man ir ko sal\u012bdzin\u0101t, k\u0101 partijas diskut\u0113ja pirms se\u0161iem gadiem un k\u0101 t\u0101s diskut\u0113 \u0161odien. Dom\u0101ju, ka Latvija p\u0113d\u0113jos desmit gados ekonomiski, politiski un ar\u012b starptautiski ir k\u013cuvusi \u013coti sp\u0113c\u012bga. \u0160odien, piem\u0113ram, sa\u0146\u0113mu Somijas prezidenta Ahtis\u0101ri v\u0113st\u012bjumu, kur\u0101 teikts, ka Latvija p\u0113d\u0113jos desmit gados visos b\u016btisk\u0101kajos jaut\u0101jumos ir stabila un labi att\u012bst\u012bjusies. Varb\u016bt tas, ka tie\u0161i \u0161odien main\u0101s vald\u012bbas, var\u0113tu noteikt \u0161\u0101 gadsimta beigu un gadsimta s\u0101kuma vald\u012bbu virzienus. Kopum\u0101 j\u0101saka: es person\u012bgi nekad ne ar vienu politi\u0137i neesmu non\u0101cis bezcer\u012bg\u0101 konflikt\u0101, ne tuvu tam, k\u0101d\u0101 ir non\u0101ku\u0161i politi\u0137i Saeim\u0101 \u0161\u012bs vald\u012bbas kr\u012bzes laik\u0101. E.I.: – K\u0101d\u0113\u013c politi\u0137i mums ir tik ka\u0161\u0137\u012bgi? G.U.: – \u0160is jaut\u0101jums ir no citas operas – vai nu t\u0101 ir g\u0113nu m\u0101c\u012bba, fiziolo\u0123ija vai k\u0101das citas m\u0101c\u012bbas – par raksturiem un to, k\u0101di visp\u0101r cilv\u0113ki ir – citi ir mier\u012bgi, citi ne tik l\u012bdzsvaroti. Kaut gan \u0161is parlaments b\u016bt\u012bb\u0101 ir l\u012bdzsvarots un diezgan mier\u012bgs. Ir jaut\u0101jums par politisko partiju slim\u012bb\u0101m partiju m\u0113rog\u0101, nevis cilv\u0113cisk\u0101 person\u0101liju m\u0113rog\u0101. J.R.: – Da\u017ek\u0101rt \u0161\u0137iet, ka j\u016bs p\u0101rlieku cen\u0161aties iev\u0113rot atgriezenisk\u0101s saites ar politi\u0137iem un esat apzin\u0101ti vair\u012bjies no konfliktiem. Vai vienm\u0113r tas ir bijis pareizi? G.U.: – Noteikt\u0101k r\u012bkoties man nebija vajadz\u012bbas. Man nebija Lietuvas varianta, nebija \u0161\u0101das situ\u0101cijas. Nevienam vald\u012bbas vad\u012bt\u0101jam es nevar\u0113ju p\u0101rmest kaut ko l\u012bdz\u012bgu tam, ko mans kol\u0113\u0123is bija spiests p\u0101rmest kaimi\u0146os. Nav bijusi t\u0101da vajadz\u012bba. Bet\u2026 neteiksim vis! Atcerieties m\u016bsu attiec\u012bbas ar Andri \u0160\u0137\u0113li, atcerieties, k\u0101d\u0113\u013c demision\u0113ja Valdis Birkavs. Bet tas nebija m\u016bsu person\u012bgais naids vai pretrunas, tas bija str\u012bds par objekt\u012bviem valsts att\u012bst\u012bbas procesiem! Prezidenta loma konstitucion\u0101li ir paredz\u0113ta t\u0101da, k\u0101du es to esmu centies iev\u0113rot. Mans pamats ir konstit\u016bcijas burts, un jebkurai valsts amatpersonai, atk\u0101pjoties no konstit\u016bcijas, rodas neizb\u0113gams konflikts. Ar\u012b n\u0101kotn\u0113 prezidentam nen\u0101ksies iejaukties ekonomiskos procesos, vair\u0101k b\u016bs j\u0101dom\u0101, k\u0101 es to dar\u012bju, par m\u016bsu sabiedr\u012bbas saska\u0146u, gar\u012bg\u0101m interes\u0113m, noska\u0146ojumu, garast\u0101vokli. Jo prezidents nevar populistiski iziet sabiedr\u012bb\u0101 un teikt: vald\u012bba ir t\u0101da vai vald\u012bba ir \u0161\u0101da. Prezidentam vai nu j\u0101grie\u017eas pie vald\u012bbas ar konkr\u0113tiem ieteikumiem, vai ar\u012b \u0161\u012b vald\u012bba ir j\u0101aizst\u0101v. Kritiz\u0113t bez darb\u012bbas – tas b\u016btu bezm\u0113r\u0137\u012bgi, tas noz\u012bm\u0113 padar\u012bt valsti no malas smiekl\u012bgu. Jo t\u0101l\u0101k m\u0113s ejam, jo m\u016bsu r\u012bc\u012bba k\u013c\u016bst saska\u0146ot\u0101ka ar cit\u0101m Eiropas valst\u012bm. Prezidentam j\u0101dara tas, ko esmu dar\u012bjis visus \u0161os gadus, veidojot Latvijas modeli atbilst\u012bgu ES modelim. Nekad neesmu r\u012bkojies, amb\u012bciju vai populisma vad\u012bts. N\u0101vessods, referendums, armijas izve\u0161ana, pilson\u012bbas likums – tie visi bija vald\u012bbas un prezidenta p\u0101rdom\u0101ti r\u012bc\u012bbas mot\u012bvi. Ja j\u016bs var\u0113tu man p\u0101rmest k\u013c\u016bdu, kas bijusi b\u016btiska valsts att\u012bst\u012bb\u0101, tad es paliktu diezgan dom\u012bgs un iepaz\u012btos ar to k\u0101 ar jaunatkl\u0101jumu. J.R.: – \u012asi pirms 17. j\u016bnija k\u0101d\u0101 intervij\u0101 j\u016bs teic\u0101t: Kri\u0161topana vald\u012bba ir stabila, es neredzu alternat\u012bvas \u0161ai vald\u012bbai, t\u0101d\u0113\u013c t\u0101 j\u0101stiprina. Tom\u0113r tai pa\u0161\u0101 laik\u0101 sabiedr\u012bbas aptaujas liecin\u0101ja par pret\u0113jo, ka vald\u012bba nav stabila. Vai j\u016bs neesat mazliet ar savu nost\u0101ju maldin\u0101jis sabiedr\u012bbu? Varb\u016bt nevajadz\u0113ja b\u016bt tik saudz\u012bgam un gl\u0101sto\u0161am v\u0113rt\u0113jumos? G.U.: – Piekr\u012btu, piekr\u012btu, piekr\u012btu. E.I.: – Kur\u0161 nosauks n\u0101kamo premjerministru – j\u016bs vai Vaira V\u012b\u0137e – Freiberga? G.U.: – Politisk\u0101 lo\u0123ika un pieredze mani mudina dom\u0101t, ka tas b\u016btu j\u0101izdara n\u0101kamajai prezidentei. Pieredze un politisk\u0101 lo\u0123ika. Da\u017ereiz gan dz\u012bve norisin\u0101s ne p\u0113c pieredzes un lo\u0123ikas principiem, bet p\u0113c diezgan impuls\u012bvas notikumu gaitas. \u0160ai mirkl\u012b es t\u0101dus nep\u0101rdom\u0101tus, straujus un temperament\u012bgus impulsus neredzu. Prognoz\u0113ju, ka partijas diezgan r\u016bp\u012bgi apspried\u012bs savu situ\u0101ciju, jo \u00abT\u0113vzemei un Br\u012bv\u012bbai\u00bb\/LNNK un Tautas partijai premjera demisija ir diezgan negaid\u012bts g\u0101jiens. Vi\u0146i to piepras\u012bja, bet dom\u0101ja, ka v\u0113l drusci\u0146\u2026 J.R.: – ..un Kri\u0161topanu<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":2058,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"elementor_canvas","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[27],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-2095","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-intervijas"],"yoast_head":"\nGuntis Ulmanis: Partij\u0101m j\u0101izslimo "masalas"! - Edmunds Im\u0161a<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/edmundsimsa.com\/?p=2095\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"Guntis Ulmanis: Partij\u0101m j\u0101izslimo "masalas"! - Edmunds Im\u0161a\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"Partij\u0101m j\u0101izslimo “masalas” Edmunds Im\u0161a, J. Rim\u0161\u0101ns – R\u012bgas Balss Latvijas pirmais Valsts prezidents p\u0113c neatkar\u012bbas atjauno\u0161anas – Guntis Ulmanis vakar RB \u017eurn\u0101listiem J\u0101nim Rim\u0161\u0101nam un Edmundam Im\u0161am R\u012bgas pil\u012b sniedza savu p\u0113d\u0113jo interviju prezident\u016bras laik\u0101. Starp daudz\u0101m da\u017e\u0101d\u0101m liet\u0101m RB uzdeva jaut\u0101jumus ar\u012b par visaktu\u0101l\u0101ko lietu – premjerministra Vi\u013ca Kri\u0161topana demisiju. Prezidents kopum\u0101 ir p\u0101rliecin\u0101ts, ka V.Kri\u0161topans ir r\u012bkojies pareizi, un uzskata, ka jaun\u0101 vald\u012bba j\u0101veido Andra \u0160\u0137\u0113les vad\u012btajai Tautas partijai, \u00abT\u0113vzemei un Br\u012bv\u012bbai\u00bb\/LNNK un \u00abLatvijas ce\u013cam\u00bb. \u0160\u0101du vald\u012bbas modeli, diem\u017e\u0113l nesekm\u012bgi, G.Ulmanis pied\u0101v\u0101jis jau p\u0113c 7.Saeimas v\u0113l\u0113\u0161an\u0101m. G.Ulmanis ar\u012b uzskata, ka n\u0101kamo premjerministru nosauks vi\u0146a amata p\u0113cn\u0101c\u0113ja Vaira V\u012b\u0137e – Freiberga. P\u0101r\u0113jo intervijas da\u013cu par prezidenta uzskatiem, dz\u012bvesveidu un v\u0113rt\u0113jumiem lasiet r\u012bt RB atv\u0113rum\u0101! \u00a0 E.I.: – K\u0101d\u0113\u013c m\u016bsu vald\u012bbu m\u016b\u017es ir tik neilgs? G.U.: – Politiskie sp\u0113ki Latvij\u0101 nav stabili. Ir skaidrs, ka pie \u0161\u0101da partiju vesel\u012bbas st\u0101vok\u013ca jebkur\u0161 kandid\u0101ts, kas n\u0101k no to vidus, var notur\u0113ties zin\u0101mu laiku, p\u0113c tam politiskie sp\u0113ki atkal sav\u0101 starp\u0101 nopietnu vai maz\u0101k nopietnu iemeslu d\u0113\u013c s\u0101k konflikt\u0113t. Un amatpersonas? Piem\u0113ram, \u0161\u012bs vald\u012bbas kri\u0161ana nav Vi\u013ca Kri\u0161topana probl\u0113ma. T\u0101pat k\u0101 prezidenta kandid\u0101tu izv\u0113l\u0113 un noteik\u0161an\u0101 svar\u012bga bija nevis katra kandidat\u016bra, bet gan politisko sp\u0113ku vieno\u0161an\u0101s. T\u0101, piem\u0113ram, m\u0113s m\u0113ne\u0161iem debat\u0113j\u0101m par \u010detr\u0101m kandidat\u016br\u0101m, bet p\u0113c tam 24 stund\u0101s izvirz\u012bj\u0101m un apstiprin\u0101j\u0101m kandid\u0101ti – bez iepaz\u012b\u0161an\u0101s, bez debat\u0113m un \u0161\u012bs kandidat\u016bras apsprie\u0161anas. Tas noz\u012bm\u0113, ka politisko sp\u0113ku r\u012bc\u012bba ne vienm\u0113r ir p\u0101rdom\u0101ta un stabila, k\u0101 to prasa politisk\u0101 kult\u016bra att\u012bst\u012bt\u0101s Rietumeiropas valst\u012bs. \u0160odienas vald\u012bbas kr\u012bze ir vado\u0161o politisko sp\u0113ku jeb parlamenta vado\u0161o partiju iek\u0161\u0113ja kr\u012bze. \u00abT\u0113vzemei un Br\u012bv\u012bbai\u00bb\/LNNK, soci\u0101ldemokr\u0101tu, \u00abLatvijas ce\u013ca\u00bb kr\u012bze. Vien\u012bg\u0101 partija, kas notur\u0113ja iek\u0161\u0113jo stabilit\u0101ti, ir Tautas partija, atrazdam\u0101s opoz\u012bcij\u0101, kas ar\u012b tai \u013c\u0101va notur\u0113t \u0161o stabilit\u0101ti. Bet p\u0101r\u0113j\u0101s partijas iek\u0161\u0113jo pretrunu d\u0113\u013c burtiski da\u017e\u0101s dien\u0101s izjauca koal\u012bciju. E.I.: – Bet citu partiju mums nav, j\u0101dz\u012bvo ar t\u0101m pa\u0161\u0101m\u2026 G.U.: – T\u0101m j\u0101izslimo \u00abmasalas\u00bb, ar kur\u0101m t\u0101s \u0161oned\u0113\u013c slimo. Ceru, ka p\u0113c \u0161\u012bs v\u012brusu slim\u012bbas, kura t\u0101s p\u0101r\u0146\u0113musi p\u0113d\u0113j\u0101 laik\u0101, partijas k\u013c\u016bs stipr\u0101kas, im\u016bnas un ar\u012b veidosies stabil\u0101kas. Turkl\u0101t da\u017eas partijas veidojas bez pietiekamas ideolo\u0123isk\u0101s b\u0101zes, un t\u0101s p\u0113c zin\u0101ma laika paz\u016bd no partiju apv\u0101r\u0161\u0146a. \u0160obr\u012bd jau veidojas partijas ar noteiktu novirzienu – vai tas b\u016btu soci\u0101ldemokr\u0101tiskais, krist\u012bgi konservat\u012bvais vai liber\u0101lais, un \u0161ie pamatprincipi arvien vair\u0101k ieiet partiju aprit\u0113. Turkl\u0101t cilv\u0113ki, kas ir \u0161aj\u0101s partij\u0101s, n\u0101ca, bie\u017ei vien nezin\u0101dami, kur un k\u0101 vi\u0146i iet, vi\u0146iem vienk\u0101r\u0161i bija v\u0113lme darboties k\u0101d\u0101 partij\u0101. Vi\u0146i arvien vair\u0101k p\u0101rliecin\u0101s, kam ir der\u012bgi – \u0161ai vai citai partijai. Visp\u0101r j\u016bs run\u0101jat t\u0101d\u0101 gaisotn\u0113, it k\u0101 es jau b\u016btu br\u012bvs cilv\u0113ks, bet \u0161is ar\u012b ir memu\u0101ru jaut\u0101jums – mani v\u0113rojumi par se\u0161u septi\u0146u gadu politisko sp\u0113ku att\u012bst\u012bbas gaitu. Man ir ko sal\u012bdzin\u0101t, k\u0101 partijas diskut\u0113ja pirms se\u0161iem gadiem un k\u0101 t\u0101s diskut\u0113 \u0161odien. Dom\u0101ju, ka Latvija p\u0113d\u0113jos desmit gados ekonomiski, politiski un ar\u012b starptautiski ir k\u013cuvusi \u013coti sp\u0113c\u012bga. \u0160odien, piem\u0113ram, sa\u0146\u0113mu Somijas prezidenta Ahtis\u0101ri v\u0113st\u012bjumu, kur\u0101 teikts, ka Latvija p\u0113d\u0113jos desmit gados visos b\u016btisk\u0101kajos jaut\u0101jumos ir stabila un labi att\u012bst\u012bjusies. Varb\u016bt tas, ka tie\u0161i \u0161odien main\u0101s vald\u012bbas, var\u0113tu noteikt \u0161\u0101 gadsimta beigu un gadsimta s\u0101kuma vald\u012bbu virzienus. Kopum\u0101 j\u0101saka: es person\u012bgi nekad ne ar vienu politi\u0137i neesmu non\u0101cis bezcer\u012bg\u0101 konflikt\u0101, ne tuvu tam, k\u0101d\u0101 ir non\u0101ku\u0161i politi\u0137i Saeim\u0101 \u0161\u012bs vald\u012bbas kr\u012bzes laik\u0101. E.I.: – K\u0101d\u0113\u013c politi\u0137i mums ir tik ka\u0161\u0137\u012bgi? G.U.: – \u0160is jaut\u0101jums ir no citas operas – vai nu t\u0101 ir g\u0113nu m\u0101c\u012bba, fiziolo\u0123ija vai k\u0101das citas m\u0101c\u012bbas – par raksturiem un to, k\u0101di visp\u0101r cilv\u0113ki ir – citi ir mier\u012bgi, citi ne tik l\u012bdzsvaroti. Kaut gan \u0161is parlaments b\u016bt\u012bb\u0101 ir l\u012bdzsvarots un diezgan mier\u012bgs. Ir jaut\u0101jums par politisko partiju slim\u012bb\u0101m partiju m\u0113rog\u0101, nevis cilv\u0113cisk\u0101 person\u0101liju m\u0113rog\u0101. J.R.: – Da\u017ek\u0101rt \u0161\u0137iet, ka j\u016bs p\u0101rlieku cen\u0161aties iev\u0113rot atgriezenisk\u0101s saites ar politi\u0137iem un esat apzin\u0101ti vair\u012bjies no konfliktiem. Vai vienm\u0113r tas ir bijis pareizi? G.U.: – Noteikt\u0101k r\u012bkoties man nebija vajadz\u012bbas. Man nebija Lietuvas varianta, nebija \u0161\u0101das situ\u0101cijas. Nevienam vald\u012bbas vad\u012bt\u0101jam es nevar\u0113ju p\u0101rmest kaut ko l\u012bdz\u012bgu tam, ko mans kol\u0113\u0123is bija spiests p\u0101rmest kaimi\u0146os. Nav bijusi t\u0101da vajadz\u012bba. Bet\u2026 neteiksim vis! Atcerieties m\u016bsu attiec\u012bbas ar Andri \u0160\u0137\u0113li, atcerieties, k\u0101d\u0113\u013c demision\u0113ja Valdis Birkavs. Bet tas nebija m\u016bsu person\u012bgais naids vai pretrunas, tas bija str\u012bds par objekt\u012bviem valsts att\u012bst\u012bbas procesiem! Prezidenta loma konstitucion\u0101li ir paredz\u0113ta t\u0101da, k\u0101du es to esmu centies iev\u0113rot. Mans pamats ir konstit\u016bcijas burts, un jebkurai valsts amatpersonai, atk\u0101pjoties no konstit\u016bcijas, rodas neizb\u0113gams konflikts. Ar\u012b n\u0101kotn\u0113 prezidentam nen\u0101ksies iejaukties ekonomiskos procesos, vair\u0101k b\u016bs j\u0101dom\u0101, k\u0101 es to dar\u012bju, par m\u016bsu sabiedr\u012bbas saska\u0146u, gar\u012bg\u0101m interes\u0113m, noska\u0146ojumu, garast\u0101vokli. Jo prezidents nevar populistiski iziet sabiedr\u012bb\u0101 un teikt: vald\u012bba ir t\u0101da vai vald\u012bba ir \u0161\u0101da. Prezidentam vai nu j\u0101grie\u017eas pie vald\u012bbas ar konkr\u0113tiem ieteikumiem, vai ar\u012b \u0161\u012b vald\u012bba ir j\u0101aizst\u0101v. Kritiz\u0113t bez darb\u012bbas – tas b\u016btu bezm\u0113r\u0137\u012bgi, tas noz\u012bm\u0113 padar\u012bt valsti no malas smiekl\u012bgu. Jo t\u0101l\u0101k m\u0113s ejam, jo m\u016bsu r\u012bc\u012bba k\u013c\u016bst saska\u0146ot\u0101ka ar cit\u0101m Eiropas valst\u012bm. Prezidentam j\u0101dara tas, ko esmu dar\u012bjis visus \u0161os gadus, veidojot Latvijas modeli atbilst\u012bgu ES modelim. Nekad neesmu r\u012bkojies, amb\u012bciju vai populisma vad\u012bts. N\u0101vessods, referendums, armijas izve\u0161ana, pilson\u012bbas likums – tie visi bija vald\u012bbas un prezidenta p\u0101rdom\u0101ti r\u012bc\u012bbas mot\u012bvi. Ja j\u016bs var\u0113tu man p\u0101rmest k\u013c\u016bdu, kas bijusi b\u016btiska valsts att\u012bst\u012bb\u0101, tad es paliktu diezgan dom\u012bgs un iepaz\u012btos ar to k\u0101 ar jaunatkl\u0101jumu. J.R.: – \u012asi pirms 17. j\u016bnija k\u0101d\u0101 intervij\u0101 j\u016bs teic\u0101t: Kri\u0161topana vald\u012bba ir stabila, es neredzu alternat\u012bvas \u0161ai vald\u012bbai, t\u0101d\u0113\u013c t\u0101 j\u0101stiprina. Tom\u0113r tai pa\u0161\u0101 laik\u0101 sabiedr\u012bbas aptaujas liecin\u0101ja par pret\u0113jo, ka vald\u012bba nav stabila. Vai j\u016bs neesat mazliet ar savu nost\u0101ju maldin\u0101jis sabiedr\u012bbu? Varb\u016bt nevajadz\u0113ja b\u016bt tik saudz\u012bgam un gl\u0101sto\u0161am v\u0113rt\u0113jumos? G.U.: – Piekr\u012btu, piekr\u012btu, piekr\u012btu. E.I.: – Kur\u0161 nosauks n\u0101kamo premjerministru – j\u016bs vai Vaira V\u012b\u0137e – Freiberga? G.U.: – Politisk\u0101 lo\u0123ika un pieredze mani mudina dom\u0101t, ka tas b\u016btu j\u0101izdara n\u0101kamajai prezidentei. Pieredze un politisk\u0101 lo\u0123ika. Da\u017ereiz gan dz\u012bve norisin\u0101s ne p\u0113c pieredzes un lo\u0123ikas principiem, bet p\u0113c diezgan impuls\u012bvas notikumu gaitas. \u0160ai mirkl\u012b es t\u0101dus nep\u0101rdom\u0101tus, straujus un temperament\u012bgus impulsus neredzu. Prognoz\u0113ju, ka partijas diezgan r\u016bp\u012bgi apspried\u012bs savu situ\u0101ciju, jo \u00abT\u0113vzemei un Br\u012bv\u012bbai\u00bb\/LNNK un Tautas partijai premjera demisija ir diezgan negaid\u012bts g\u0101jiens. 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Rim\u0161\u0101ns – R\u012bgas Balss Latvijas pirmais Valsts prezidents p\u0113c neatkar\u012bbas atjauno\u0161anas – Guntis Ulmanis vakar RB \u017eurn\u0101listiem J\u0101nim Rim\u0161\u0101nam un Edmundam Im\u0161am R\u012bgas pil\u012b sniedza savu p\u0113d\u0113jo interviju prezident\u016bras laik\u0101. Starp daudz\u0101m da\u017e\u0101d\u0101m liet\u0101m RB uzdeva jaut\u0101jumus ar\u012b par visaktu\u0101l\u0101ko lietu – premjerministra Vi\u013ca Kri\u0161topana demisiju. Prezidents kopum\u0101 ir p\u0101rliecin\u0101ts, ka V.Kri\u0161topans ir r\u012bkojies pareizi, un uzskata, ka jaun\u0101 vald\u012bba j\u0101veido Andra \u0160\u0137\u0113les vad\u012btajai Tautas partijai, \u00abT\u0113vzemei un Br\u012bv\u012bbai\u00bb\/LNNK un \u00abLatvijas ce\u013cam\u00bb. \u0160\u0101du vald\u012bbas modeli, diem\u017e\u0113l nesekm\u012bgi, G.Ulmanis pied\u0101v\u0101jis jau p\u0113c 7.Saeimas v\u0113l\u0113\u0161an\u0101m. G.Ulmanis ar\u012b uzskata, ka n\u0101kamo premjerministru nosauks vi\u0146a amata p\u0113cn\u0101c\u0113ja Vaira V\u012b\u0137e – Freiberga. P\u0101r\u0113jo intervijas da\u013cu par prezidenta uzskatiem, dz\u012bvesveidu un v\u0113rt\u0113jumiem lasiet r\u012bt RB atv\u0113rum\u0101! \u00a0 E.I.: – K\u0101d\u0113\u013c m\u016bsu vald\u012bbu m\u016b\u017es ir tik neilgs? G.U.: – Politiskie sp\u0113ki Latvij\u0101 nav stabili. Ir skaidrs, ka pie \u0161\u0101da partiju vesel\u012bbas st\u0101vok\u013ca jebkur\u0161 kandid\u0101ts, kas n\u0101k no to vidus, var notur\u0113ties zin\u0101mu laiku, p\u0113c tam politiskie sp\u0113ki atkal sav\u0101 starp\u0101 nopietnu vai maz\u0101k nopietnu iemeslu d\u0113\u013c s\u0101k konflikt\u0113t. Un amatpersonas? Piem\u0113ram, \u0161\u012bs vald\u012bbas kri\u0161ana nav Vi\u013ca Kri\u0161topana probl\u0113ma. T\u0101pat k\u0101 prezidenta kandid\u0101tu izv\u0113l\u0113 un noteik\u0161an\u0101 svar\u012bga bija nevis katra kandidat\u016bra, bet gan politisko sp\u0113ku vieno\u0161an\u0101s. T\u0101, piem\u0113ram, m\u0113s m\u0113ne\u0161iem debat\u0113j\u0101m par \u010detr\u0101m kandidat\u016br\u0101m, bet p\u0113c tam 24 stund\u0101s izvirz\u012bj\u0101m un apstiprin\u0101j\u0101m kandid\u0101ti – bez iepaz\u012b\u0161an\u0101s, bez debat\u0113m un \u0161\u012bs kandidat\u016bras apsprie\u0161anas. Tas noz\u012bm\u0113, ka politisko sp\u0113ku r\u012bc\u012bba ne vienm\u0113r ir p\u0101rdom\u0101ta un stabila, k\u0101 to prasa politisk\u0101 kult\u016bra att\u012bst\u012bt\u0101s Rietumeiropas valst\u012bs. \u0160odienas vald\u012bbas kr\u012bze ir vado\u0161o politisko sp\u0113ku jeb parlamenta vado\u0161o partiju iek\u0161\u0113ja kr\u012bze. \u00abT\u0113vzemei un Br\u012bv\u012bbai\u00bb\/LNNK, soci\u0101ldemokr\u0101tu, \u00abLatvijas ce\u013ca\u00bb kr\u012bze. Vien\u012bg\u0101 partija, kas notur\u0113ja iek\u0161\u0113jo stabilit\u0101ti, ir Tautas partija, atrazdam\u0101s opoz\u012bcij\u0101, kas ar\u012b tai \u013c\u0101va notur\u0113t \u0161o stabilit\u0101ti. Bet p\u0101r\u0113j\u0101s partijas iek\u0161\u0113jo pretrunu d\u0113\u013c burtiski da\u017e\u0101s dien\u0101s izjauca koal\u012bciju. E.I.: – Bet citu partiju mums nav, j\u0101dz\u012bvo ar t\u0101m pa\u0161\u0101m\u2026 G.U.: – T\u0101m j\u0101izslimo \u00abmasalas\u00bb, ar kur\u0101m t\u0101s \u0161oned\u0113\u013c slimo. Ceru, ka p\u0113c \u0161\u012bs v\u012brusu slim\u012bbas, kura t\u0101s p\u0101r\u0146\u0113musi p\u0113d\u0113j\u0101 laik\u0101, partijas k\u013c\u016bs stipr\u0101kas, im\u016bnas un ar\u012b veidosies stabil\u0101kas. Turkl\u0101t da\u017eas partijas veidojas bez pietiekamas ideolo\u0123isk\u0101s b\u0101zes, un t\u0101s p\u0113c zin\u0101ma laika paz\u016bd no partiju apv\u0101r\u0161\u0146a. \u0160obr\u012bd jau veidojas partijas ar noteiktu novirzienu – vai tas b\u016btu soci\u0101ldemokr\u0101tiskais, krist\u012bgi konservat\u012bvais vai liber\u0101lais, un \u0161ie pamatprincipi arvien vair\u0101k ieiet partiju aprit\u0113. Turkl\u0101t cilv\u0113ki, kas ir \u0161aj\u0101s partij\u0101s, n\u0101ca, bie\u017ei vien nezin\u0101dami, kur un k\u0101 vi\u0146i iet, vi\u0146iem vienk\u0101r\u0161i bija v\u0113lme darboties k\u0101d\u0101 partij\u0101. Vi\u0146i arvien vair\u0101k p\u0101rliecin\u0101s, kam ir der\u012bgi – \u0161ai vai citai partijai. Visp\u0101r j\u016bs run\u0101jat t\u0101d\u0101 gaisotn\u0113, it k\u0101 es jau b\u016btu br\u012bvs cilv\u0113ks, bet \u0161is ar\u012b ir memu\u0101ru jaut\u0101jums – mani v\u0113rojumi par se\u0161u septi\u0146u gadu politisko sp\u0113ku att\u012bst\u012bbas gaitu. Man ir ko sal\u012bdzin\u0101t, k\u0101 partijas diskut\u0113ja pirms se\u0161iem gadiem un k\u0101 t\u0101s diskut\u0113 \u0161odien. Dom\u0101ju, ka Latvija p\u0113d\u0113jos desmit gados ekonomiski, politiski un ar\u012b starptautiski ir k\u013cuvusi \u013coti sp\u0113c\u012bga. \u0160odien, piem\u0113ram, sa\u0146\u0113mu Somijas prezidenta Ahtis\u0101ri v\u0113st\u012bjumu, kur\u0101 teikts, ka Latvija p\u0113d\u0113jos desmit gados visos b\u016btisk\u0101kajos jaut\u0101jumos ir stabila un labi att\u012bst\u012bjusies. Varb\u016bt tas, ka tie\u0161i \u0161odien main\u0101s vald\u012bbas, var\u0113tu noteikt \u0161\u0101 gadsimta beigu un gadsimta s\u0101kuma vald\u012bbu virzienus. Kopum\u0101 j\u0101saka: es person\u012bgi nekad ne ar vienu politi\u0137i neesmu non\u0101cis bezcer\u012bg\u0101 konflikt\u0101, ne tuvu tam, k\u0101d\u0101 ir non\u0101ku\u0161i politi\u0137i Saeim\u0101 \u0161\u012bs vald\u012bbas kr\u012bzes laik\u0101. E.I.: – K\u0101d\u0113\u013c politi\u0137i mums ir tik ka\u0161\u0137\u012bgi? G.U.: – \u0160is jaut\u0101jums ir no citas operas – vai nu t\u0101 ir g\u0113nu m\u0101c\u012bba, fiziolo\u0123ija vai k\u0101das citas m\u0101c\u012bbas – par raksturiem un to, k\u0101di visp\u0101r cilv\u0113ki ir – citi ir mier\u012bgi, citi ne tik l\u012bdzsvaroti. Kaut gan \u0161is parlaments b\u016bt\u012bb\u0101 ir l\u012bdzsvarots un diezgan mier\u012bgs. Ir jaut\u0101jums par politisko partiju slim\u012bb\u0101m partiju m\u0113rog\u0101, nevis cilv\u0113cisk\u0101 person\u0101liju m\u0113rog\u0101. J.R.: – Da\u017ek\u0101rt \u0161\u0137iet, ka j\u016bs p\u0101rlieku cen\u0161aties iev\u0113rot atgriezenisk\u0101s saites ar politi\u0137iem un esat apzin\u0101ti vair\u012bjies no konfliktiem. Vai vienm\u0113r tas ir bijis pareizi? G.U.: – Noteikt\u0101k r\u012bkoties man nebija vajadz\u012bbas. Man nebija Lietuvas varianta, nebija \u0161\u0101das situ\u0101cijas. Nevienam vald\u012bbas vad\u012bt\u0101jam es nevar\u0113ju p\u0101rmest kaut ko l\u012bdz\u012bgu tam, ko mans kol\u0113\u0123is bija spiests p\u0101rmest kaimi\u0146os. Nav bijusi t\u0101da vajadz\u012bba. Bet\u2026 neteiksim vis! Atcerieties m\u016bsu attiec\u012bbas ar Andri \u0160\u0137\u0113li, atcerieties, k\u0101d\u0113\u013c demision\u0113ja Valdis Birkavs. Bet tas nebija m\u016bsu person\u012bgais naids vai pretrunas, tas bija str\u012bds par objekt\u012bviem valsts att\u012bst\u012bbas procesiem! Prezidenta loma konstitucion\u0101li ir paredz\u0113ta t\u0101da, k\u0101du es to esmu centies iev\u0113rot. Mans pamats ir konstit\u016bcijas burts, un jebkurai valsts amatpersonai, atk\u0101pjoties no konstit\u016bcijas, rodas neizb\u0113gams konflikts. Ar\u012b n\u0101kotn\u0113 prezidentam nen\u0101ksies iejaukties ekonomiskos procesos, vair\u0101k b\u016bs j\u0101dom\u0101, k\u0101 es to dar\u012bju, par m\u016bsu sabiedr\u012bbas saska\u0146u, gar\u012bg\u0101m interes\u0113m, noska\u0146ojumu, garast\u0101vokli. Jo prezidents nevar populistiski iziet sabiedr\u012bb\u0101 un teikt: vald\u012bba ir t\u0101da vai vald\u012bba ir \u0161\u0101da. Prezidentam vai nu j\u0101grie\u017eas pie vald\u012bbas ar konkr\u0113tiem ieteikumiem, vai ar\u012b \u0161\u012b vald\u012bba ir j\u0101aizst\u0101v. Kritiz\u0113t bez darb\u012bbas – tas b\u016btu bezm\u0113r\u0137\u012bgi, tas noz\u012bm\u0113 padar\u012bt valsti no malas smiekl\u012bgu. Jo t\u0101l\u0101k m\u0113s ejam, jo m\u016bsu r\u012bc\u012bba k\u013c\u016bst saska\u0146ot\u0101ka ar cit\u0101m Eiropas valst\u012bm. Prezidentam j\u0101dara tas, ko esmu dar\u012bjis visus \u0161os gadus, veidojot Latvijas modeli atbilst\u012bgu ES modelim. Nekad neesmu r\u012bkojies, amb\u012bciju vai populisma vad\u012bts. N\u0101vessods, referendums, armijas izve\u0161ana, pilson\u012bbas likums – tie visi bija vald\u012bbas un prezidenta p\u0101rdom\u0101ti r\u012bc\u012bbas mot\u012bvi. Ja j\u016bs var\u0113tu man p\u0101rmest k\u013c\u016bdu, kas bijusi b\u016btiska valsts att\u012bst\u012bb\u0101, tad es paliktu diezgan dom\u012bgs un iepaz\u012btos ar to k\u0101 ar jaunatkl\u0101jumu. J.R.: – \u012asi pirms 17. j\u016bnija k\u0101d\u0101 intervij\u0101 j\u016bs teic\u0101t: Kri\u0161topana vald\u012bba ir stabila, es neredzu alternat\u012bvas \u0161ai vald\u012bbai, t\u0101d\u0113\u013c t\u0101 j\u0101stiprina. Tom\u0113r tai pa\u0161\u0101 laik\u0101 sabiedr\u012bbas aptaujas liecin\u0101ja par pret\u0113jo, ka vald\u012bba nav stabila. Vai j\u016bs neesat mazliet ar savu nost\u0101ju maldin\u0101jis sabiedr\u012bbu? Varb\u016bt nevajadz\u0113ja b\u016bt tik saudz\u012bgam un gl\u0101sto\u0161am v\u0113rt\u0113jumos? G.U.: – Piekr\u012btu, piekr\u012btu, piekr\u012btu. E.I.: – Kur\u0161 nosauks n\u0101kamo premjerministru – j\u016bs vai Vaira V\u012b\u0137e – Freiberga? G.U.: – Politisk\u0101 lo\u0123ika un pieredze mani mudina dom\u0101t, ka tas b\u016btu j\u0101izdara n\u0101kamajai prezidentei. Pieredze un politisk\u0101 lo\u0123ika. Da\u017ereiz gan dz\u012bve norisin\u0101s ne p\u0113c pieredzes un lo\u0123ikas principiem, bet p\u0113c diezgan impuls\u012bvas notikumu gaitas. \u0160ai mirkl\u012b es t\u0101dus nep\u0101rdom\u0101tus, straujus un temperament\u012bgus impulsus neredzu. Prognoz\u0113ju, ka partijas diezgan r\u016bp\u012bgi apspried\u012bs savu situ\u0101ciju, jo \u00abT\u0113vzemei un Br\u012bv\u012bbai\u00bb\/LNNK un Tautas partijai premjera demisija ir diezgan negaid\u012bts g\u0101jiens. 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