{"id":2476,"date":"2024-08-03T18:11:24","date_gmt":"2024-08-03T18:11:24","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/edmundsimsa.com\/?p=2476"},"modified":"2024-08-03T18:32:23","modified_gmt":"2024-08-03T18:32:23","slug":"armands-stendzenieks-no-miljoniem-lidz-cietumam","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/edmundsimsa.com\/?p=2476","title":{"rendered":"Armands Stendzenieks. No miljoniem l\u012bdz cietumam"},"content":{"rendered":"\t\t
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Armands Stendzenieks. No miljoniem l\u012bdz cietumam<\/h2>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t
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Edmunds Im\u0161a, Galvenais redaktors – Vakara Av\u012bze Vakara\u00a0Zi\u0146as<\/em><\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t

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Pirm\u0101 Da\u013ca<\/span><\/h3>

Intervija ar Armandu Stendzenieku notiek Liep\u0101jas cietuma kamer\u0101. Pils\u0113t\u0101, kur\u0101 piedzimst v\u0113j\u0161, cietums ir mazs un t\u012brs. Pagalm\u0101 aug skuju koki, gaite\u0146i gandr\u012bz vai priec\u0113 ar t\u012br\u012bbu. Pats Stendzenieks par godu intervijai ir saposies k\u0101 uz Operu \u2014 lab\u0101 uzvalk\u0101, ar kaklasaiti, t\u012bri sk\u016bts \u2014 un nemaz neatg\u0101dina klasisku cietumnieku, par kuriem iedom\u0101joties pr\u0101t\u0101 n\u0101k rokudzel\u017ei un sv\u012btrainas dr\u0113bes. Vi\u0146\u0161 pat pied\u0101v\u0101 \u0161\u0137\u012bsto\u0161o kafiju un vafe\u013cu torti. St\u0101stot mazliet nervoz\u0113. Ieslodz\u012bjum\u0101 bez noties\u0101jo\u0161a tiesas sprieduma vi\u0146\u0161 pavad\u012bjis jau piecus gadus.<\/p>

\u2014 K\u0101d\u0113\u013c j\u016bs atrodaties cietum\u0101?<\/p>

\u2014 Es uzskatu, ka mana lieta ir politiski safabric\u0113ta un pamats ir viens \u2014 da\u017eiem cilv\u0113kiem Latvij\u0101 bija svar\u012bgi p\u0101r\u0146emt manu \u012bpa\u0161umu, p\u0101r\u0146emt lielas naudas summas, kas pieder\u0113ja man, un neatdot.<\/p>

\u2014 J\u016bsu \u012bpa\u0161umus ir p\u0101r\u0146\u0113mu\u0161i citi cilv\u0113ki?<\/p>

\u2014 J\u0101, viss, kas man Latvij\u0101 ir pieder\u0113jis, ir likvid\u0113ts. Viss ir nojaukts. 1998. gad\u0101, kad mani “izlaida” no cietuma, kad nomain\u012bja dro\u0161\u012bbas l\u012bdzekli, es piln\u012bb\u0101 iev\u0113roju policijas uzraudz\u012bbu. Ne reizi no manas puses nebija nek\u0101du probl\u0113mu, bet taj\u0101 pa\u0161\u0101 laik\u0101 no \u0122ener\u0101lprokurat\u016bras zvan\u012bja un m\u0113\u0123in\u0101ja uztais\u012bt provok\u0101ciju par to, ka neesmu ieradies. Man bija sast\u0101d\u012bts saraksts, kad man j\u0101ierodas policij\u0101. Parasti dro\u0161\u012bbas l\u012bdzekli nemaina. Tad krimin\u0101llietu no\u0146\u0113ma (prokuroram Aleksandram) Stepanovam un nodeva t\u0101l\u0101k (Jurim) P\u0113dam. P\u0113da nomain\u012bja dro\u0161\u012bbas l\u012bdzekli atpaka\u013c, un vi\u0146\u0161 ar mani run\u0101ja, kad 18. decembr\u012b izsauca uz \u0122ener\u0101lprokurat\u016bru. Pied\u0101v\u0101jums bija t\u0101ds \u2014 vai nu es snieg\u0161u aps\u016bdzo\u0161as liec\u012bbas pret Ventspils grup\u0113jumu, vai ar\u012b es t\u016bl\u012bt ie\u0161u s\u0113d\u0113t, atk\u0101rtoti tiks main\u012bts dro\u0161\u012bbas l\u012bdzeklis. “Tu b\u016bsi atpaka\u013c cietum\u0101,” vi\u0146\u0161 teica.<\/p>

Es teicu, ka neredzu nek\u0101du pamatu, k\u0101p\u0113c man var\u0113tu main\u012bt dro\u0161\u012bbas l\u012bdzekli. Man iebilda, ka es maldos. “Prokurat\u016bra daudz ko var izdar\u012bt, tev tikai \u0161\u0137iet, ka neko nevar izdar\u012bt.” Re\u0101li jau pat apsardze bija nolikta kabinet\u0101.<\/p>

\u2014 Vai j\u016bs varat atkl\u0101t, kuri bija tie cilv\u0113ki, kas v\u0113l\u0113j\u0101s p\u0101r\u0146emt j\u016bsu mantu?<\/p>

\u2014 J\u0101, protams. 1998. gad\u0101 bija vair\u0101kas vieno\u0161an\u0101s. Mani atbr\u012bvoja un nomain\u012bja dro\u0161\u012bbas l\u012bdzekli, man uzdeva jaut\u0101jumu, vai es piedal\u012b\u0161os politik\u0101? Es teicu, ka noteikti piedal\u012b\u0161os, un man ar (Gunta) Indriksona starpniec\u012bbu tika uzdots jaut\u0101jums, vai neesmu ar mieru sa\u0146emt finansi\u0101lu kompens\u0101ciju un pazust no Latvijas. Es atbild\u0113ju, ka neesmu ar mieru aizbrauk un noteikti gribu piedal\u012bties politiskaj\u0101 darb\u012bb\u0101. Ja netiek trauc\u0113ta mana piedal\u012b\u0161an\u0101s politiskaj\u0101 c\u012b\u0146\u0101, es ar\u012b atsakos izmantot jebk\u0101dus kompromit\u0113jo\u0161us materi\u0101lus, un tad b\u016btu vienk\u0101r\u0161a god\u012bga politisk\u0101 c\u012b\u0146a. Toreiz netic\u0113ju, ka l\u012bdz rudenim (maij\u0101 nomain\u012bja dro\u0161\u012bbas l\u012bdzekli) sp\u0113\u0161u nodibin\u0101t politisko partiju (Latvijas Tautas varas partiju jeb LTVP. \u2014 E. I.). Praktiski es to sp\u0113ju, biju jau noorganiz\u0113jis, un tad, kad biju pa\u0146\u0113mis telev\u012bzij\u0101 lab\u0101kos rekl\u0101mas laikus, ac\u012bmredzot k\u0101ds saprata, ka Stendzenieks ir p\u0101r\u0101k b\u012bstams un mani j\u0101liek atpaka\u013c cietum\u0101. (LTVP bija nopirkusi p\u0113d\u0113jo “rull\u012bti” rekl\u0101mas blok\u0101 pirms raid\u012bjuma “Panor\u0101ma” partijas politisk\u0101s a\u0123it\u0101cijas rekl\u0101mai, kuru saska\u0146\u0101 ar l\u012bgumu p\u0101rraid\u012btu 83 dienas \u2014 no13. j\u016blija l\u012bdz<\/p>

  1. oktobrim, visas septi\u0146as dienas ned\u0113\u013c\u0101.)<\/li><\/ol>

    \u2014 Jums ir versija, kas pie\u0146\u0113ma \u0161o l\u0113mumu?<\/p>

    \u2014 Protams, ka man ir versijas. Bet jaut\u0101jums ir cits \u2014 k\u0101d\u0101 veid\u0101 tika risin\u0101ts jaut\u0101jums par partijas dibin\u0101\u0161anu. Bija god\u012bgi norun\u0101ts, ka es norm\u0101li piedal\u012b\u0161os c\u012b\u0146\u0101 un nevienu “neaizskar\u0161u”. Ta\u010du taj\u0101 laik\u0101, kad tieslietu ministrs bija (TB\/LNNK biedrs Dzintars) Rasna\u010ds, vi\u0146\u0161 run\u0101ja par manas partijas miru\u0161aj\u0101m dv\u0113sel\u0113m. (P\u0101rbaud\u0113, sal\u012bdzinot ar Iedz\u012bvot\u0101ju re\u0123istra zi\u0146\u0101m, tika konstat\u0113ts, ka partijas dibin\u0101t\u0101ju vid\u016b ir divas miru\u0161as personas. \u2014 E. I.) V\u0113l taj\u0101 pa\u0161\u0101 laik\u0101 man ar (Normundu) Laku\u010du no “t\u0113vzemie\u0161iem” tika nodots, ka man j\u0101noliek 50 t\u016bksto\u0161i dol\u0101ru, lai visp\u0101r var\u0113tu partiju re\u0123istr\u0113t. Laku\u010ds run\u0101ja partijas v\u0101rd\u0101, tik\u0101mies person\u012bgi. M\u0113s run\u0101j\u0101m, ka mani neviens netrauc\u0113s politiskaj\u0101 c\u012b\u0146\u0101 un es ar\u012b nevienu netrauc\u0113\u0161u. Lai sak\u0101rtotu jaut\u0101jumus, m\u0113s tik\u0101mies M\u0113ness un C\u0113su ielas krustojum\u0101. Vi\u0146\u0161 teica, ka vajag no manis tos<\/p>

    50 t\u016bksto\u0161us un visi partiju jaut\u0101jumi b\u016bs nok\u0101rtoti, un ar\u012b Rasna\u010ds vairs neuzst\u0101sies. Vi\u0146\u0161 (Laku\u010ds) it k\u0101 tur neko nevarot kontrol\u0113t, jo Rasna\u010ds pats it k\u0101 pie\u0146\u0113mis l\u0113mumus. Es teicu: 50 \u2014 tas ir par traku, bet konkr\u0113t\u0101k jau b\u016bs 30 t\u016bksto\u0161i.<\/p>

    N\u0101kamaj\u0101 vakar\u0101 man nauda bija j\u0101atnes. Es atnesu naudu, vi\u0146\u0161 teica, lai nolieku. Pirmaj\u0101 reiz\u0113 vi\u0146\u0161 ierad\u0101s mazliet “ie\u0161vilpis” un run\u0101ja ma\u0161\u012bn\u0101, bet otraj\u0101 reiz\u0113 vi\u0146\u0161 atteic\u0101s run\u0101t man\u0101 ma\u0161\u012bn\u0101. Izk\u0101p\u0101m \u0101r\u0101, un vi\u0146\u0161 teica: noliec naudu uz s\u0113dek\u013ca (sav\u0101 ma\u0161\u012bn\u0101).Vi\u0146\u0161 atbrauca ar savu ma\u0161\u012bnu, es \u2014 ar savu (\u012br\u0113tu). Izk\u0101p\u0101m \u0101r\u0101 un run\u0101j\u0101m. Es: “K\u0101 b\u016bs ar dokumentu re\u0123istr\u0101ciju?” Vi\u0146\u0161: “Dar\u012bsim t\u0101! Dokumentus tu sa\u0146emsi p\u0113d\u0113j\u0101 dien\u0101 pirms partiju sarakstu iesnieg\u0161anas v\u0113l\u0113\u0161an\u0101m V\u0113l\u0113\u0161anu komisijai.” Es: “Normund, t\u0101 tas neiet. T\u0101d\u0101 gad\u012bjum\u0101 j\u016bs dro\u0161i vien esat nol\u0113mu\u0161i vai nu p\u0113d\u0113j\u0101 dien\u0101 man atdot tos 30 t\u016bksto\u0161us, vai ar\u012b, slikt\u0101k\u0101 gad\u012bjum\u0101, man pateikt, ka nekas nesan\u0101ca. Ja t\u0101, es naudu neatst\u0101ju.” Neko nesamaks\u0101jis, g\u0101ju citu ce\u013cu, iesniedzu otrreiz dokumentus, bet tos man atkal “nogrieza”.<\/p>

    \u2014 Tad jau t\u0101 lo\u0123ika ir t\u0101da, ka Rasna\u010ds un vi\u0146a partijas biedrs aizliedza jums dibin\u0101t partiju, jo nesamaks\u0101j\u0101t?<\/p>

    \u2014 J\u0101, jo vi\u0146\u0161 jau agr\u0101k teica presei, ka j\u0101ierosina krimin\u0101llieta. Parakstus par partijas dibin\u0101\u0161anu s\u0101ka v\u0101kt jau pusgadu iepriek\u0161. Daugavpil\u012b bija parakst\u012bju\u0161ies veci cilv\u0113ki, kuri jau pa to laiku bija miru\u0161i. Prokurat\u016bra to visu bija p\u0101rbaud\u012bjusi, un nebija t\u0101, ka b\u016btu ierakst\u012bts, kur\u0161 ir jau miris. Ta\u010du presei pazi\u0146oja, ka Stendzenieks kr\u0101pjas un pin iek\u0161\u0101 miru\u0161as dv\u0113seles. Un visp\u0101r \u2014 k\u0101p\u0113c t\u0101du partiju v\u0113l ar vi\u0146u dibin\u0101t. Tom\u0113r \u012bsi pirms atk\u0101rtot\u0101 aresta man bija telefonsaruna ar M\u0101ri Gr\u012bnblatu.<\/p>

    Es vi\u0146am piezvan\u012bju un teicu, ka god\u012bgi iev\u0113roju noteikumus un nek\u0101dus kompromit\u0113jo\u0161us materi\u0101lus neizplatu. Un vaic\u0101ju, k\u0101p\u0113c vi\u0146i man trauc\u0113 iet politisk\u0101 c\u012b\u0146\u0101. Vi\u0146\u0161 man atbild\u0113ja: “Tu jau zini, kas ir partijas kontaktpersona, run\u0101 ar Laku\u010du.” M\u0113s s\u0101k\u0101m konflikt\u0113t, nolam\u0101jos. Tad vi\u0146\u0161 teica: “Stendzeniek, tu p\u0101r\u0101k daudz iedom\u0101jies. Tev nek\u0101das varas nav, un m\u0113s tevi ieb\u0101z\u012bsim atpaka\u013c tur, kur tu biji.” Manupr\u0101t, nobijusies bija ar\u012b Tautas parti-ja \u2014 man bija inform\u0101cija, ka \u0160\u0137\u0113le esot teicis: “Stendzenieku nek\u0101d\u0101 gad\u012bjum\u0101 nevar ielaist parlament\u0101.” Tom\u0113r saruna man ir bijusi ar “t\u0113vzemie\u0161iem”. T\u0101 k\u0101 es ar Gr\u012bnblatu k\u0101rt\u012bgi sastr\u012bd\u0113jos, vi\u0146\u0161 saprata, ka gad\u012bjum\u0101, ja iek\u013c\u016b\u0161u parlament\u0101, ar mani b\u016bs j\u0101r\u0113\u0137in\u0101s. Savu r\u012bc\u012bbu vi\u0146\u0161 motiv\u0113ja ar to, ka es 1995. gad\u0101 (Alberta Kaula Vien\u012bbas) partijai ieguvu asto\u0146as vietas, pa\u0146\u0113mu lab\u0101kos rekl\u0101mas laikus telev\u012bzij\u0101 un ka viena no man\u0101m pamatt\u0113z\u0113m ir pret Eiropas Savien\u012bbu. Latvijai nav tur j\u0101iet iek\u0161\u0101.<\/p>

    \u2014 Tad j\u016bsu versija ir…<\/p>

    \u2014 Mana versija: otrais ir politiskais pl\u0101ns, bet pirm\u0101 versi-<\/p>

    ja \u2014 tie \u012bpa\u0161umi, kuri j\u0101sav\u0101c. Viens ir izdar\u012bt to, bet otrs \u2014 likvid\u0113t mani k\u0101 politisko pretinieku. Dab\u016bt ties\u0101jam\u012bbu tautas ac\u012bs ir viens, bet vi\u0146i ar\u012b dom\u0101ja: varb\u016bt pas\u0113d\u0113s un nomierin\u0101sies. Lietas b\u016bt\u012bba ir t\u0101da, ka kred\u012bts it k\u0101 ir pa\u0146emts 1994. un otrais \u2014 1995. gad\u0101. T\u0101tad paiet viss 95., 96. gads, un krimin\u0101llietas nav. Form\u0101li jau prokurat\u016bra to ir noform\u0113jusi ar atpaka\u013cejo\u0161u datumu, bet, ja esmu tas vain\u012bgais, k\u0101p\u0113c tas nenotika uzreiz? Krimin\u0101llietas nebija l\u012bdz pa\u0161am 1997. gada pavasarim, bet tad, kad pac\u0113l\u0101s t\u0101 (“Latvenergo”) triju miljonu lieta, man bija tik\u0161an\u0101s ar zin\u0101mu cilv\u0113ku grupu London\u0101. Un \u0161\u012bs tik\u0161an\u0101s ietvaros tika risin\u0101ti jaut\u0101jumi par tr\u012bs miljonu lietas saska\u0146o\u0161anu.<\/p>

    \u2014 Kas ir \u0161ie zin\u0101mie cilv\u0113ki? Vai vi\u0146i ir saist\u012bti ar politisko vai ekonomisko eliti?<\/p>

    \u2014 J\u0101, j\u0101, j\u0101. Man\u0101 kl\u0101tb\u016btn\u0113 tika saska\u0146ots, tas pats Indriksons bija kl\u0101t, man\u0101 kl\u0101tb\u016btn\u0113 tika saska\u0146oti jaut\u0101jumi ar (J\u0101ni) Nagli \u2014 k\u0101 Privatiz\u0101cijas a\u0123ent\u016bra r\u012bkosies \u0161aj\u0101 jaut\u0101jum\u0101, t\u0101 ka lai vi\u0146\u0161 nest\u0101sta, ka nezina, k\u0101du risin\u0101jumu toreiz k\u0101rtoja. Man\u0101 kl\u0101tb\u016btn\u0113 tika zvan\u012bts ar\u012b (advok\u0101tam Andrim) Gr\u016btupam, kas saska\u0146oja jaut\u0101jumus ar \u0123ener\u0101lprokuroru (J\u0101ni) Skrasti\u0146u par \u0161o dar\u012bjumu veik\u0161anu. Saska\u0146oja ar deput\u0101tiem, jo taj\u0101 laik\u0101 bija nepiecie\u0161ams veikt likumu izmai\u0146as uz \u012bsu br\u012bdi.<\/p>

    \u2014 Vai tas noz\u012bm\u0113, ka vi\u0146iem nebija t\u0101lejo\u0161u pl\u0101nu attiec\u012bb\u0101 uz jums, jo tad jau vi\u0146i j\u016bsu kl\u0101tb\u016btn\u0113 t\u0101 neuzvestos?<\/p>

    \u2014 1995. gad\u0101 sac\u0113la skand\u0101lu, ka Stendzenieks ir kr\u0101pnieks. Tad tas bija izdev\u012bgi “Saimnieka” partijas l\u012bderim Ziedonim \u010ceveram, jo tolaik vi\u0146i bija oponenti “Latvijas ce\u013cam” (LC), vi\u0146iem vajadz\u0113ja pier\u0101d\u012bt, ka LC ir r\u012bkojies nepareizi. Otr\u0101 lie-<\/p>

    ta \u2014 negrib\u0113ja pielaist ventspilniekus pie “Ventspils naftas”. M\u0113\u0123in\u0101ja dar\u012bt visu iesp\u0113jamo, lai ventspilniekus pab\u012bd\u012btu mal\u0101 un Ventspils grup\u0113jumu k\u0101 t\u0101du likvid\u0113tu. Kred\u012btu \u0146em\u0161ana bija likum\u012bga. Bet tobr\u012bd, 1995. gad\u0101, es maks\u0101ju visus procentus, bank\u0101 “Baltija” biju nomaks\u0101jis visus procentus, pat 500 t\u016bksto\u0161us uz priek\u0161u. Mums ar banku “Baltija” bija konfidencialit\u0101tes l\u012bgums, ka tre\u0161ajai pusei kred\u012bta iedo\u0161anu visp\u0101r nedr\u012bkst atkl\u0101t. Kad likvidatoru rok\u0101s non\u0101ca dokuments par kred\u012btu, es uz to br\u012bdi visus procentus biju nomaks\u0101jis, vi\u0146iem nebija nek\u0101das ties\u012bbas celt nek\u0101dus tra\u010dus, nek\u0101dus skand\u0101lus. K\u0101 bankas likvidatori vi\u0146i ir likum\u012bgi p\u0101r\u0146\u0113m\u0113ji, un vi\u0146i man to nevar\u0113ja p\u0101rmest, jo es biju visus nosac\u012bjumus izpild\u012bjis. Un taj\u0101 pa\u0161\u0101 laik\u0101 pres\u0113 par\u0101d\u012bj\u0101s zi\u0146as, ka Stendzenieks ir kr\u0101pnieks un lielais bl\u0113dis. Prokurat\u016brai nu jau ir piecas da\u017e\u0101das versijas, k\u0101 tas notika. Ir variants, ka izkr\u0101ptas garantijas, viltotas garantijas, biju\u0161as garantijas projekta veid\u0101. Ka Ventspilij garantijas izkr\u0101ptas, apkr\u0101pta banka un nauda sadal\u012bta kop\u0101 ar Laventu. Versijas ir bez sava gala, un katra tautai tika pasniegta k\u0101 \u012bsten\u012bba un paties\u012bba.<\/p>

    Man\u0101 liet\u0101 sakrita da\u017e\u0101das intereses. Viena no t\u0101m \u2014 mani aizdab\u016bt no politisk\u0101s skatuves. 1995. gad\u0101, kad uz v\u0113l\u0113\u0161an\u0101m g\u0101ju ar Vien\u012bbas partiju, tas bija izdev\u012bgi Demokr\u0101tiskajai partijai “Saimnieks”. Otrs \u2014 nob\u012bd\u012bt Ventspils grup\u0113jumu, jo ventspilnieki taj\u0101 laik\u0101 s\u0101ka att\u012bst\u012bties. Tre\u0161ais \u2014 mana \u012bpa\u0161uma p\u0101r\u0146em\u0161ana un l\u012bdzek\u013cu at\u0146em\u0161ana.<\/p>

    Run\u0101jot par to laiku, es neko nevaru teikt par Andra \u0160\u0137\u0113les piedal\u012b\u0161anos \u0161aj\u0101 liet\u0101, bet t\u0101l\u0101k \u0160\u0137\u0113le nost\u0101j\u0101s pret LC, un vi\u0146am rad\u0101s nepiecie\u0161am\u012bba p\u0113c “kom-promata” pret LC. \u0160\u0137\u0113le ar Gr\u016btupa pal\u012bdz\u012bbu \u0122ener\u0101lprokurat\u016br\u0101 vienm\u0113r ir kontrol\u0113jis J\u0101ni Skrasti\u0146u, un R\u012bgas apgabaltiesu ne velti sauc par Gr\u016btupa kabatas tiesu, jo, lai ar\u012b apgabaltiesas priek\u0161s\u0113d\u0113t\u0101js J\u0101nis Mui\u017enieks ir mans kursabiedrs un mums ar vi\u0146u savulaik bija kolos\u0101las attiec\u012bbas, Gr\u016btups tiesu sist\u0113mu ir veidojis t\u0101, ka vi\u0146\u0161 vienpersoniski var visu komand\u0113t. Dom\u0101ju, ka t\u0101 ir, bet k\u0101 apgalvojumu to teikt nevar, jo Gr\u016btups ir profesion\u0101ls jurists un advok\u0101ts, un par t\u0101diem v\u0101rdiem, protams, mani var saukt pie atbild\u012bbas par goda un cie\u0146as aizskar\u0161anu. Bet k\u0101 savu pie\u013c\u0101vumu es to saku.<\/p>

    \u2014 B\u016btu jau augst\u0101k\u0101 m\u0113r\u0101 interesanti, ja Gr\u016btups j\u016bs sauktu pie atbild\u012bbas\u2026<\/p>

    \u2014 Es labpr\u0101t paties\u0101tos. Kad s\u0101k\u0101s tas variants, tad jau \u0160\u0137\u0113le bija ieinteres\u0113ts sa\u0146emt (kompromit\u0113jo\u0161us) materi\u0101lus. 1995. gada decembr\u012b man uz Londonu piezvan\u012bja un teica, ka ar mani v\u0113l\u0113tos run\u0101t nopietni cilv\u0113ki no R\u012bgas. Es vaic\u0101ju, kas tie par cilv\u0113kiem, un man atbild\u0113ja, ka tas neesot svar\u012bgi \u2014 ja tu esi gatavs run\u0101t, tad tikai nosaki tik\u0161anos, m\u0113s atbrauksim un parun\u0101simies. Es piekritu. Tik\u0161an\u0101s tika noz\u012bm\u0113ta London\u0101, ja nemaldos, 1995. gada decembr\u012b vai novembr\u012b.<\/p>

    \u2014 Tad ta\u010du \u0160\u0137\u0113li apstiprin\u0101ja premjera amat\u0101?<\/p>

    \u2014 J\u0101. Uz tik\u0161anos bija ieradies \u0123ener\u0101lprokurat\u016bras administrat\u012bvo lietu administrat\u012bvais direktors administrat\u012bvajos jaut\u0101jumos Z\u0101l\u012btis, vi\u0146am bija l\u012bdzi k\u0101das komercbankas augsta ranga p\u0101rst\u0101vis. Man pied\u0101v\u0101ja samaks\u0101t milz\u012bgu summu, un tad man neb\u016b\u0161ot nek\u0101das krimin\u0101llietas, nek\u0101das vaj\u0101\u0161anas, viss b\u016b\u0161ot k\u0101rt\u012bb\u0101, lai es padom\u0101jot ar pr\u0101tu, kas un k\u0101 j\u0101dara. Es vaic\u0101ju, k\u0101das ir garantijas, k\u0101 v\u0101rd\u0101 vi\u0146\u0161 str\u0101d\u0101 \u2014 vai \u0123ener\u0101lprokurora Skrasti\u0146a un vi\u0146a vietnieka \u0160abanska. Es tom\u0113r gribu p\u0101rliecin\u0101ties. Vi\u0146\u0161 man teica: “Ir iesp\u0113ja pier\u0101d\u012bt, ka es run\u0101ju vi\u0146u v\u0101rd\u0101”, un vi\u0146\u0161 man tos pier\u0101d\u012bjumus sniedza. \u0122ener\u0101lprokurat\u016bra un tiesu varas sist\u0113ma par \u0161o tik\u0161anos ir inform\u0113ta, ar\u012b Saeim\u0101 v\u0113rsos, ta\u010du neviens nem\u0113\u0123ina par \u0161o tik\u0161anos run\u0101t. Ir ta\u010du iesp\u0113jams re\u0101li p\u0101rbaud\u012bt pases datus Imigr\u0101cijas dienest\u0101, vai taj\u0101 laik\u0101 Z\u0101l\u012btis ir izbraucis. V\u0113l jo vair\u0101k, viesn\u012bc\u0101 “Park Line” London\u0101 es maks\u0101ju r\u0113\u0137inus un Z\u0101l\u012bti re\u0123istr\u0113ju ar vi\u0146a v\u0101rda. Ir re\u0123istr\u0113ts, ka viesn\u012bc\u0101 vi\u0146\u0161 bijis kop\u0101 ar mani, un ir ar\u012b kaut k\u0101ds t\u0101s sarunas ieraksts. Bija konkr\u0113ta runa, es atteicos maks\u0101t t\u0101das summas, jo t\u0101s ir p\u0101r\u0101k lielas. Runa bija pr vair\u0101kiem miljoniem, kaut gan Z\u0101l\u012btis naudu sa\u0146\u0113ma. Pirmaj\u0101 etap\u0101 vi\u0146\u0161 sa\u0146\u0113ma 70 t\u016bksto\u0161us.<\/p>

    \u2014 K\u0101p\u0113c j\u016bs vi\u0146am dev\u0101t naudu?<\/p>

    \u2014 Nu, bija teikts, ka vajag, cit\u0101di t\u0101 lieta var b\u016bt, var neb\u016bt. Man jau \u0161obr\u012bd nav b\u016btiski… Tautas partija politiku k\u0101rtoja t\u0101 saucamaj\u0101 tr\u012bs miljonu liet\u0101, vi\u0146i jau paties\u012bb\u0101 to lietu izmantoja. Un tur bija pavisam citas un daudz liel\u0101kas summas paredz\u0113ts dal\u012bt.<\/p>

    Es piekr\u012btu, ka tr\u012bs miljonu lietas jaut\u0101jums ir piln\u012bgi norm\u0101ls, likum\u012bgs un pareizs, ja \u0146em no juridisk\u0101 viedok\u013ca. Bet jaut\u0101jums jau bija cits. No s\u0101kuma notika mierizl\u012bgums ar “Ventspils naftu”, “Zuss Roh-stoffe Trading” un banku “Baltija” Kurzemes apgabalties\u0101. Notikums tika fiks\u0113ts ar tiesas l\u0113mumu. Ar Gr\u016btupa starpniec\u012bbu \u0160\u0137\u0113le deva r\u012bkojumu Skrasti\u0146am aptur\u0113t \u0161o tiesas l\u0113mumu, jo tur nek\u0101du naudu nevar\u0113ja dab\u016bt. Man ir tik\u0161an\u0101s London\u0101 un v\u0113l citur, un viss ir k\u0101rt\u012bb\u0101. To nevar saska\u0146ot ar ventspilniekiem, un pres\u0113 sace\u013cas trok-snis, un atkal nevar nopeln\u012bt, un ar naudu viss nobremz\u0113jas. Un tad, kad k\u0101ds nevar nopeln\u012bt, tad tiek dotas komandas, ka steig\u0161us j\u0101risina situ\u0101cija, j\u0101dod komandas v\u0101cie\u0161iem \u2014 atved\u012bs vi\u0146u \u0161eit un sniegs k\u0101das liec\u012bbas. Un ko taj\u0101 pa\u0161\u0101 laik\u0101 noz\u012bm\u0113 Guntis Indriksons? Indriksons ir viena no atsl\u0113gas fig\u016br\u0101m.<\/p>

    \u2014 Indriksons ir j\u016bsu studiju laika biedrs, draugs un biznesa partneris?<\/p>

    \u2014 Attiec\u012bbas ir t\u0101das, k\u0101das t\u0101s ir. T\u0101s ir biju\u0161as \u013coti labas. Man\u0101 kl\u0101tb\u016btn\u0113 s\u0113d\u0113ja cilv\u0113ku komp\u0101nija, kas Latvij\u0101 tik\u0161an\u0101s laik\u0101 bija sac\u0113lu\u0161i skand\u0101lus pres\u0113. Indriksons jau bija tas, kur\u0161 pa telefonu b\u013c\u0101va: “Idioti t\u0101di, k\u0101p\u0113c j\u016bs esat noform\u0113ju\u0161i abus gad\u012bjumus uz vienu firmu. Es ta\u010du jums, stulbe\u0146iem, teicu, ka vajag sak\u0101rtot divas atsevi\u0161\u0137as firmas.”<\/p>

    \u2014 Kurus cilv\u0113kus vi\u0146\u0161 sauca par stulbe\u0146iem?<\/p>

    \u2014 Tos, kuri k\u0101rtoja jaut\u0101jumus. 1997. gad\u0101 dar\u012bjums neizdev\u0101s, un vi\u0146\u0161 nenopeln\u012bja naudu, t\u0101p\u0113c vajadz\u0113ja kaut k\u0101 uzspiest uz Ventspili, lai tas dar\u012bjums notiktu. Arest\u0113sim Stendzenieku, un varb\u016bt tad j\u016bs dom\u0101siet \u0101tr\u0101k, lai to naudu izmaks\u0101tu. 1997.gad\u0101 mani atveda, un t\u0101 pa\u0161a gada beig\u0101s man bija tik\u0161an\u0101s ar \u0123ener\u0101lprokuroru Skrasti\u0146u. Sarun\u0101j\u0101mies vair\u0101kas stundas. Vi\u0146\u0161 man teica: “Armand, s\u0101c dot liec\u012bbas pret LC politi\u0137iem, s\u0101c dot aps\u016bdzo\u0161as liec\u012bbas pret “Ventspils naftas” vado\u0161ajiem darbiniekiem, un es met\u012b\u0161u visus darbus pie malas, m\u0113s uzst\u0101d\u012bsim pretnoklaus\u012b\u0161an\u0101s aparat\u016bru, s\u0113d\u0113sim abi vien\u0101 kabinet\u0101, un es person\u012bgi visu klaus\u012b\u0161os.” Es sac\u012bju: “Lai es skald\u012btu riekstu \u010daumalu un j\u016bs ar \u0160\u0137\u0113li to \u0113stu?” T\u0101l\u0101k jau aizg\u0101ja inform\u0101cija par Skrasti\u0146a orient\u0101ciju, tur jau person\u012bg\u0101kas amb\u012bcijas nostr\u0101d\u0101ja pret mani.<\/p>

    \u2014 K\u0101 j\u016bs pier\u0101d\u012bsiet vi\u0146a person\u012bg\u0101s amb\u012bcijas?<\/p>

    \u2014 1999. gad\u0101, kad Skrasti\u0146\u0161 iesniedza savu otro atl\u016bgumu, vi\u0146\u0161 jau to neiesniedza aiz br\u012bvas gribas, vienk\u0101r\u0161i konkr\u0113ti sp\u0113ki samekl\u0113ja konkr\u0113tus pier\u0101d\u012bjumus un konkr\u0113tas liec\u012bbas par to, ka Skrasti\u0146\u0161 ir homoseksu\u0101lists. \u0160\u012bs liec\u012bbas tika noliktas vi\u0146am uz galda ar pied\u0101v\u0101jumu \u2014 vai nu j\u016bs ejat prom no \u0123ener\u0101lprokurora amata, vai ar\u012b \u0161\u012b inform\u0101cija tiks publiskota. Taj\u0101 vakar\u0101 Skrasti\u0146\u0161 parakst\u012bja atl\u016bgumu. Kad vi\u0146\u0161 atl\u016bgumu bija nolicis gald\u0101, politiskie tiesas sp\u0113ki, kas st\u0101v\u0113ja aiz vi\u0146a, kaut vai Tautas partija, nobij\u0101s. Jo dabiski, ka \u0122ener\u0101lprokurat\u016bras p\u0101rst\u0101vji vi\u0146iem ir sp\u0113c\u012bgi. Dom\u0101ju, ka Skrasti\u0146am bija p\u0101rrunas, vi\u0146am uzsita uz pleca un teica: turies, tevi aizst\u0101v\u0113s. Homoseksu\u0101listu loks zin\u0101m\u0101 m\u0113r\u0101 ir saist\u012bts, un klient\u016bra ir viena. Skaidri nevaru teikt, ka Skrasti\u0146\u0161 b\u016btu izmantojis b\u0113rnus, lai Dievs pasarg, man t\u0101das inform\u0101cijas nav. Bet tas loks un t\u0101s personas, kas tur iesaist\u012btas, ir vienas un sav\u0101 starp\u0101 saist\u012btas. T\u0101tad aiztikt vienu, noz\u012bm\u0113 aiztikt ar\u012b otru.<\/p>

    \u2014 Kas ir tie homoseksu\u0101listi valsts amatos?<\/p>

    \u2014 \u0160aj\u0101 gad\u012bjum\u0101 tas nav b\u016btiski, pamats tam visam ir bijus\u012b VDK, jo nav jau nosl\u0113pums, ka Latvijas politisk\u0101 elite ir veidota uz VDK b\u0101zes. M\u0113s tagad run\u0101jam par kaut k\u0101d\u0101m br\u012bv\u012bbas c\u012b\u0146\u0101m, dziesmoto revol\u016bciju, bet tas viss ir blefs. Faktiski tas, ka Latvija, Lietuva un Igaunija atdal\u012bsies no Padomju Savien\u012bbas, bija biznesa l\u012bmen\u012b pie\u0146emts l\u0113mums, turkl\u0101t \u013coti \u0101tri un jau daudz agr\u0101k, jo 97., 98. gad\u0101 t\u0101 pati VDK izveda arh\u012bvus no Latvijas, gatavoj\u0101s tam, ka Baltijas valstis tiks no Padomju Savien\u012bbas atvienotas. Man taj\u0101 laik\u0101 draugi str\u0101d\u0101ja VDK, es zinu. Pats atbraucu 1988. gad\u0101 un redz\u0113ju, ka puikas str\u0101d\u0101ja ar\u012b sestdien\u0101s un sv\u0113tdien\u0101s. Es \u0161iem saku: ejam prom \u0101tr\u0101k, bet \u0161ie: nevaram. Es prasu: kas par lietu, un vi\u0146i atbild: gatavojam arh\u012bvus izve\u0161anai. Visa a\u0123ent\u016bra un es \u2014 m\u0113s s\u0113d\u0113j\u0101m turpat viesn\u012bc\u0101 un redz\u0113j\u0101m, kas n\u0101ca zi\u0146ot un kas tur skr\u0113ja. Tie, kas vald\u012bb\u0101 tagad s\u0113\u017e, tie ar\u012b n\u0101ca. Tie, kas \u0161odien saka, ka vi\u0146i nav a\u0123enti. T\u0101, piem\u0113ram, “piec\u012b\u0161u lieta”. Tika pie\u0146emti pieci l\u0113mumi, ka vi\u0146i nav a\u0123ent\u016bras darbinieki. Tie pa\u0161i “piec\u012b\u0161i” s\u0113d\u0113ja kop\u0101 ar Indriksonu un mani “Jockey Club”, kad rit\u0113ja tiesas process, tad apsprieda, ko un k\u0101 dar\u012bt, lai pan\u0101ktu t\u0101du l\u0113mumu, ka vi\u0146i nav vain\u012bgi. Vi\u0146i bija vain\u012bgi, protams, ka bija. Ta\u010du ir tiesas l\u0113mums, un juridiski skait\u0101s, ka vi\u0146i nav vain\u012bgi. Nu, k\u0101 nav, ja vi\u0146i man\u0101 kl\u0101tb\u016btn\u0113 visas lietas k\u0101rtoja, un es esmu gatavs ar jebkuru zv\u0113restu to apliecin\u0101t! Latvijas politisk\u0101 elite \u2014 faktiski tur a\u0123ent\u016bra ir iek\u0161\u0101. K\u0101p\u0113c vienu da\u013cu lika iek\u0161\u0101? Ja ieliek vald\u012bb\u0101, tad t\u0101 ir j\u0101kontrol\u0113. Un ko viegl\u0101k ir kontrol\u0113t? To, pret kuru ir “kompromats”. K\u0101p\u0113c atst\u0101ja to pa\u0161u arh\u012bvu \u0161eit, t\u0101s pa\u0161as kart\u012btes? Cilv\u0113ks vienm\u0113r var pateikt, ka t\u0101 darba kart\u012bte ir safabric\u0113ta, bet taj\u0101 pa\u0161\u0101 laik\u0101 nevar noliegt, k\u0101 zin\u0101ms, materi\u0101ls spiediens tas ir. Otrs \u2014 k\u0101p\u0113c \u0161eit iek\u0161\u0101 “zilos” salika? T\u0101p\u0113c, ka tos viegl\u0101k var kontrol\u0113t, t\u0101 ir inform\u0101cija, kas stabili tur\u0113sies, ilgsto\u0161u laiku var\u0113s vi\u0146us \u0161anta\u017e\u0113t. Vi\u0146i izdar\u012bja cit\u0101di \u2014 savilka iek\u0161\u0101 jaunus puikas, uztais\u012bja papildu inform\u0101ciju. Un t\u0101 k\u0101 \u0161odien tie jaunie puikas ir salikti ministrij\u0101s un p\u0101rvald\u0113s, “zilo” sabiedr\u012bba ir no-stiprin\u0101jusies tot\u0101li. Ja jau tas b\u016btu tikai Latvij\u0101, tas neb\u016btu iesp\u0113jams. Probl\u0113ma ir t\u0101, ka vis\u0101 pasaul\u0113 “zilie” ir nostiprin\u0101ju\u0161ies. Gan Amerik\u0101, gan Eirop\u0101. Un uz t\u0101 fona ar\u012b \u0161eit vi\u0146i pac\u0113lu\u0161i galvas.<\/p>

    Personas kart\u012bte<\/h3>

    Armands Stendzenieks<\/p>

    Dzimis: 1959. gad\u0101<\/p>

    \u0122imenes st\u0101voklis: prec\u0113jies (ar sievu iepazinies \u013be\u0146ingrad\u0101),<\/p>

    b\u0113rni \u2014 divi d\u0113li<\/p>

    Izgl\u012bt\u012bba: beidzis LVU Juridisko fakult\u0101ti<\/p>

    Dz\u012bves fakti: dien\u0113jis \u013be\u0146ingradas apgabal\u0101;<\/p>

    Krievij\u0101 nodz\u012bvojis 11 gadus;<\/p>

    “ZuS Rohstoffe Trading GmbH” \u012bpa\u0161nieks un direktors;<\/p>

    Krievij\u0101 divreiz bijis aps\u016bdz\u0113ts par kr\u0101p\u0161anu;<\/p>

    no cietuma Sanktp\u0113terburg\u0101, sodu l\u012bdz galam neizcie\u0161ot, atbr\u012bvots (pats \u0161o inform\u0101ciju noliedzis);<\/p>

    80. gadu otraj\u0101 pus\u0113 emigr\u0113jis uz V\u0101ciju (emigr\u0113\u0161anas mot\u012bvi nav skaidri);<\/p>

    V\u0101cij\u0101 s\u0101cis str\u0101d\u0101t par b\u0101rmeni k\u0101d\u0101 krog\u0101;<\/p>

    v\u0113l\u0101k nodarbojies ar kr\u0101saino met\u0101lu tirdzniec\u012bbu, ko sa\u0146\u0113mis ar Latvijas partneru pal\u012bdz\u012bbu;<\/p>

    1990 \u2014 1991\u2014 dibin\u0101jis “ZuS Rohstoffe Trading GmbH” (ZuS) kop\u0101 ar k\u0101du it\u0101li, ta\u010du v\u0113l\u0101k k\u013cuvis par vien\u012bgo re\u0101lo \u012bpa\u0161nieku un direktoru;<\/p>

    ZuS Latvij\u0101 iesaist\u012bjusies piecos se\u0161os projektos (univers\u0101lveikala “Dole” rekonstrukcijas projekts un ZuS meitasuz\u0146\u0113muma “ZuS Trading Latvia” projekts r\u016bpn\u012bc\u0101 “Alfa”);<\/p>

    saska\u0146\u0101 ar LPA inform\u0101ciju Latvij\u0101 Stendzenieks veicis tikai vienu ieguld\u012bjumu USD 200 000 apm\u0113r\u0101 VAS “Alfa”;<\/p>

    1. 1994. \u2014 ZuS sa\u0146\u0113musi AS “Banka “Baltija”” kred\u012btu USD 18 000 000 apm\u0113r\u0101, ko garant\u0113ja VAS “Ventspils nafta” (VN vad\u012bba noliegusi \u0161\u0101da galvojuma eksistenci, sakot, ka Stendzenieks oper\u0113jis ar garantijas dokumentu projektiem);<\/li>
    2. 1995. \u2014 ZuS nosl\u0113gusi aizdevuma l\u012bgumu par USD 18 000 000 kred\u012bta sa\u0146em\u0161anu ar\u012b Maskavas InterTEK bank\u0101;<\/li>
    3. 1995. \u2014 ZuS aizdevumu InterTEK bankai atdevusi;<\/li>
    4. 1995. \u2014 past\u0101v\u012bgi uztur\u0113jies London\u0101;<\/li>
    5. 1995. \u2014 premjers M\u0101ris Gailis apgalvojis, ka Stendzenieks apmaks\u0101jis Alberta Kaula priek\u0161v\u0113l\u0113\u0161anu rekl\u0101mas;<\/li>
    6. 1995. \u2014 DPS l\u012bderis un kandid\u0101ts premjerministra amatam Ziedonis \u010cevers ticies ar Stendzenieku London\u0101 (p\u0101rrunu t\u0113ma nav izpausta);<\/li>
    7. 1996. \u2014 prokurat\u016bra griezusies pie V\u0101cijas ties\u012bbsarg\u0101jo\u0161aj\u0101m iest\u0101d\u0113m ar l\u016bgumu izdot Stendzenieku Latvijai;<\/li>
    8. 1997. \u2014 V\u0101cijas ties\u012bbsarg\u0101jo\u0161\u0101s instit\u016bcijas atteiku\u0161\u0101s izdot Latvijai;<\/li>
    9. 1997. \u2014 aiztur\u0113jusi V\u0101cijas policija p\u0113c Interpola Latvijas biroja un \u0122ener\u0101lprokurat\u016bras l\u016bguma;<\/li>
    10. 1997. \u2014 nog\u0101d\u0101ts Latvij\u0101 ar lidma\u0161\u012bnu no V\u0101cijas un ievietots iepriek\u0161\u0113j\u0101s izmekl\u0113\u0161anas izolator\u0101;<\/li>
    11. 1997. \u2014 uzr\u0101d\u012bta aps\u016bdz\u012bba USD 18 000 000 kred\u012bta izkr\u0101p\u0161an\u0101 no bankas “Baltija”;<\/li>
    12. 1998. \u2014 prokurors Aleksandrs Stepanovs pazi\u0146ojis, ka ierosin\u0101t\u0101 krimin\u0101llieta ir politisks process, jo Stendzenieks l\u012bdz 7. Saeimas v\u0113l\u0113\u0161an\u0101m gatavojas atgriezties politik\u0101;<\/li>
    13. 1998. \u2014 \u0122ener\u0101lprokurat\u016bra noraid\u012bjusi l\u016bgumu \u013caut balot\u0113ties<\/li>
    14. Saeimas v\u0113l\u0113\u0161an\u0101s;<\/li>
    15. 1998. \u2014 s\u0101cis veidot Tautas varas partiju;<\/li>
    16. 1998. \u2014 Centra rajona tiesa pagarin\u0101jusi aiztur\u0113\u0161anas termi\u0146u l\u012bdz 30.04.1998.;<\/li>
    17. 1998. \u2014 iesniedzis ties\u0101 s\u016bdz\u012bbu, uzskatot, ka apcietin\u0101jums k\u0101 dro\u0161\u012bbas l\u012bdzeklis piem\u0113rots un pagarin\u0101ts nelikum\u012bgi;<\/li>
    18. 1998. \u2014 uzs\u0101cis badastreiku, protest\u0113jot pret piem\u0113roto dro\u0161\u012bbas l\u012bdzekli \u2014 apcietin\u0101jumu;<\/li>
    19. 1998. \u2014 R\u012bgas apgabaltiesa pagarin\u0101jusi apcietin\u0101juma termi\u0146u l\u012bdz 30.06.1998;<\/li>
    20. 1998. \u2014 pazi\u0146ojis, ka atkl\u0101s kompromit\u0113jo\u0161us materi\u0101lus par \u0123ener\u0101lprokurora J\u0101\u0146a Skrasti\u0146a un ekspremjera Andra \u0160\u0137\u0113les tuvaj\u0101m attiec\u012bb\u0101m;<\/li>
    21. 1998. \u2014 atbr\u012bvots tiesas z\u0101l\u0113, nosakot jaunu dro\u0161\u012bbas l\u012bdzekli \u2014 policijas uzraudz\u012bbu;<\/li>
    22. 1998. \u2014 pazi\u0146ojis, ka piecu se\u0161u gadu laik\u0101 atdos visu kred\u012btu;<\/li>
    23. 1998. \u2014 pazi\u0146ojis, ka neatdos kred\u012btu, ja vi\u0146u atz\u012bs par vain\u012bgu inkrimin\u0113tajos noziegumos un piespried\u012bs cietumsodu;<\/li>
    24. 1998. \u2014 pazi\u0146ojis, ka dokumenti ar jaundibin\u0101m\u0101s Tautas varas partijas biedru sarakstiem no Pilson\u012bbas un migr\u0101cijas lietu p\u0101rvaldes esot pazudu\u0161i un nodoti Dro\u0161\u012bbas policijai;<\/li>
    25. 1998. \u2014 izplat\u012bjis pazi\u0146ojumu, kur\u0101 vainojis tieslietu ministru Dzintaru Rasna\u010du rupja politiska spiediena izdar\u012b\u0161an\u0101;<\/li>
    26. 1998. \u2014 Dzintars Rasna\u010ds pazi\u0146ojis, ka Stendzeniekam “v\u0113l vismaz pieci gadi j\u0101m\u0101c\u0101s, lai izaugtu l\u012bdz Ostapa Bendera l\u012bmenim”;<\/li>
    27. 1998. \u2014 uzaicin\u0101ts uz prokurat\u016bru sniegt paskaidrojumus par Latvijas Tautas varas partijas dibin\u0101\u0161anas apst\u0101k\u013ciem;<\/li>
    28. 1998. \u2014 Centra rajona tiesa k\u0101 dro\u0161\u012bbas l\u012bdzekli piem\u0113rojusi arestu;<\/li>
    29. 1998. \u2014 iesniedzis s\u016bdz\u012bbu par Centra rajona tiesas l\u0113mumu main\u012bt vi\u0146am dro\u0161\u012bbas l\u012bdzekli no policijas uzraudz\u012bbas uz apcietin\u0101jumu, k\u0101 ar\u012b pazi\u0146ojis, ka s\u0101ks badastreiku, protest\u0113jot pret dro\u0161\u012bbas l\u012bdzek\u013ca mai\u0146u;<\/li>
    30. 1998. \u2014 pazi\u0146ojis, ka l\u016bgs ierosin\u0101t krimin\u0101llietu pret prokuroru Juri P\u0113du;<\/li>
    31. 1998. \u2014 R\u012bgas apgabaltiesa nav groz\u012bjusi piem\u0113roto dro\u0161\u012bbas l\u012bdzekli \u2014 arestu;<\/li>
    32. 1998. \u2014 atbr\u012bvots no NPP priek\u0161s\u0113d\u0113t\u0101ja amata un izsl\u0113gts no partijas;<\/li>
    33. 1998. \u2014 pazi\u0146ojis, ka nodos atkl\u0101t\u012bbai kompromit\u0113jo\u0161us materi\u0101lus, “kuri pal\u012bdz\u0113s izv\u0113l\u0113ties n\u0101kam\u0101 premjera kandid\u0101tu”;<\/li>
    34. 1998. \u2014 R\u012bgas Centra rajona tiesa pagarin\u0101jusi apcietin\u0101juma termi\u0146u, k\u0101 motiv\u0101ciju minot izmekl\u0113\u0161anas darb\u012bbas turpin\u0101\u0161anu un gal\u012bg\u0101s aps\u016bdz\u012bbas uzr\u0101d\u012b\u0161anu;<\/li>
    35. 1999. \u2014 pazi\u0146ojis, ka Latvijas p\u0101rst\u0101vji sa\u0146\u0113mu\u0161i USD 8 000 000 kompens\u0101cij\u0101 par SIA Lattelekom “jumta” l\u012bgumu;<\/li>
    36. 2000. \u2014 R\u012bgas Centra rajona tiesa s\u0101kusi izskat\u012bt vi\u0146a krimin\u0101llietu.<\/li><\/ol>

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      Otr\u0101 Da\u013ca<\/span><\/h3>

      \u0160odien turpin\u0101m public\u0113t interviju ar ieslodz\u012bto Armandu Stendzenieku. B\u016bs inform\u0101cija par biju\u0161o Latvijas valsts galvu Gunti Ulmani, kas, p\u0113c Stendzenieka st\u0101st\u012bt\u0101, \u0146\u0113mis kukuli, par korump\u0113tiem \u0122ener\u0101lprokurat\u016bras darbiniekiem. Stendzenieks daudz st\u0101sta par Gunta Indriksona “Skonto” imp\u0113riju, kura cen\u0161as piek\u013c\u016bt noz\u012bm\u012bgiem valsts pas\u016bt\u012bjumiem par liel\u0101m summ\u0101m.<\/p>

      \u2014 Kas tagad kontrol\u0113 “zilos” Latvijas varas strukt\u016br\u0101s?<\/p>

      \u2014 Nevar teikt, ka vi\u0146us kontrol\u0113, vi\u0146i pa\u0161i par sevi ir sp\u0113ks, bet vi\u0146i ir pa\u0161organiz\u0113ju\u0161ies. T\u0101s personas no malas, tas pats Indriksons, \u013coti tehniski k\u0101rto jaut\u0101jumus. Vi\u0146\u0161 izmantoja to, ka tie\u0161i vi\u0146\u0161 savulaik izveidoja “Klubu 21”, vi\u0146\u0161 bija Tautas frontes aizmugur\u0113, bija kl\u0101t pie “Latvijas ce\u013ca” dibin\u0101\u0161anas. A\u0123ent\u016bru, ko pats izveidoja, vi\u0146\u0161 ilgu laiku zin\u0101m\u0101 m\u0113r\u0101 kontrol\u0113ja, bet izmantoja ar\u012b labas attiec\u012bbas. A\u0123ent\u016br\u0101 attiec\u012bb\u0101m bija j\u0101b\u016bt lab\u0101m \u2014 operat\u012bvais darbinieks ar a\u0123entiem str\u0101d\u0101ja k\u0101 ar \u0123imeni. Tre\u0161ais \u2014 nauda. \u0160odien vi\u0146\u0161 zina, ka tie, kas tur str\u0101d\u0101ja, ir materi\u0101li ieinteres\u0113ti. Valsts pas\u016bt\u012bjumu sadal\u012b\u0161ana, p\u0101rdal\u012b\u0161ana. Profesion\u0101las konsult\u0101cijas, k\u0101 tas dar\u0101ms. Indriksons jau nav persona, kas taisa naudu, vi\u0146\u0161 nekad nav tais\u012bjis biznesu. Vi\u0146\u0161 ir t\u0101 persona, kas prot pareizi sadal\u012bt valsts l\u012bdzek\u013cus.<\/p>

      \u2014 T\u0101tad “Skonto” imp\u0113riju patie\u0161\u0101m izveidoja par \u010dekas naudu?<\/p>

      \u2014 Ko noz\u012bm\u0113 “\u010dekas nauda”? Kad Padomju Savien\u012bba sabruka, bija vienk\u0101r\u0161i nauda. T\u0101, kas bija bank\u0101s, Valsts kas\u0113. Par to ar\u012b izveidoja. Jaut\u0101jums ir par to, k\u0101 sadal\u012bja naudu, kas bija Valsts kas\u0113. Nauda tika sadal\u012bta tiem, kas taj\u0101 br\u012bd\u012b bija pie varas. T\u0101pat k\u0101 tiek p\u0101rdal\u012bts \u012bpa\u0161ums. P\u0101rdal\u012bja nacion\u0101lo \u012bpa\u0161umu, nacion\u0101lo bag\u0101t\u012bbu, ne jau \u010dekas naudu.<\/p>

      \u2014 Aizp\u0113rn “Skonto” grupas apgroz\u012bjums bija 250 miljoni latu. Tas nav maz…<\/p>

      \u2014 J\u0101, tas nav maz. Bet t\u0101 jau ir nacion\u0101l\u0101s bag\u0101t\u012bbas p\u0101rdal\u012b\u0161ana. Teiksim, “Skonto b\u016bve” \u2014 vi\u0146i jau str\u0101d\u0101 ar valsts pas\u016bt\u012bjumiem. “Skonto” k\u0101 b\u016bve, k\u0101 firma jau nepast\u0101v. Ir firma, ir birojs, darbinieki, kuri sa\u0146em projektu, sak\u0101rto to, ir organiz\u0101cijas, kas pas\u016bt\u012bjumu izpilda ar l\u012bgumsaist\u012bb\u0101m \u2014 nol\u012bgst celtniekus un paveic visu p\u0101r\u0113jo. Citi str\u0101d\u0101 p\u0113c vi\u0146u l\u012bgumiem. Indriksona uzdevums ir nodro\u0161in\u0101t valsts pas\u016bt\u012bjumu. R\u012bgas Dome, kan\u0101la t\u012br\u012b\u0161ana\u2026 Tad nauda tiek sadal\u012bta \u2014 da\u013ca iet atpaka\u013c politi\u0137iem noteikt\u0101 l\u012bmen\u012b, da\u013cu Indriksons liek sav\u0101 kabat\u0101, da\u013ca tiek norakst\u012bta. T\u0101das strukt\u016bras tiek veidotas, t\u0101 faktiski ir visur.<\/p>

      \u2014 Ja m\u0113s visp\u0101rin\u0101m, es \u0161aj\u0101 sh\u0113m\u0101 nesaprotu vienu. Jums bija nauda, draugi\u2026 P\u0113k\u0161\u0146i pien\u0101k br\u012bdis, kad visa komp\u0101nija ir nol\u0113musi j\u016bs upur\u0113t. Vai tad j\u016bs bij\u0101t pats v\u0101j\u0101kais?<\/p>

      \u2014 Vienk\u0101r\u0161i da\u017ei cilv\u0113ki ir \u013coti nekaun\u012bgi. Vi\u0146i ieg\u0101ju\u0161i t\u0101d\u0101 sist\u0113m\u0101, ka nevar cit\u0101di r\u012bkoties. Man tiesa bija noz\u012bm\u0113ta 1998. gad\u0101 Centra rajona ties\u0101 pie Rube\u0146a. Notiek saruna, man atkal ar advok\u0101ta starpniec\u012bbu pazi\u0146o, ka nevajag aiztikt politisko eliti un “tu iesi m\u0101j\u0101s”. “Stendzeniek, m\u0113s tevi at\u0161au-<\/p>

      sim,” \u2014 pat t\u0101di varianti bija, mani apstr\u0101d\u0101ja. Sol\u012bja laist m\u0101j\u0101s, “tikai never muti va\u013c\u0101”. Es teicu \u2014 ejiet rat\u0101, neb\u016bs t\u0101, k\u0101 j\u016bs gribat.<\/p>

      \u2014 Vai j\u016bsu st\u0101st\u012btais noz\u012bm\u0113, ka j\u016bs vienk\u0101r\u0161i grib sap\u016bd\u0113t cietum\u0101? No k\u0101 vi\u0146i baid\u0101s, ko j\u016bs var\u0113tu izpaust?<\/p>

      \u2014 Ne no k\u0101 vi\u0146i nebaid\u0101s, \u0161obr\u012bd jau ir pa\u0146emts viss, ko var\u0113ja pa\u0146emt. Esmu p\u0101r\u0101k ilgi notur\u0113ts cietum\u0101, un tagad atbr\u012bvot t\u0101pat, pateikt, ka Stendzenieks nav vain\u012bgs, \u2014 nu, k\u0101 tautai to pateiksi\u2026<\/p>

      \u2014 K\u0101ds var\u0113tu b\u016bt tiesas spriedums?<\/p>

      \u2014 P\u0113c panta man san\u0101ktu no pieciem l\u012bdz 13 gadiem. V\u0113l man j\u0101piem\u0113ro 1997. gada amnestija, p\u0113c \u0161\u012bs amnestijas sods j\u0101samazina uz pusi, t\u0101tad paliek se\u0161arpus gadi. Gandr\u012bz piecus jau esmu nos\u0113d\u0113jis. Man nosp\u013cauties par vi\u0146u l\u0113mumiem. Mani vairs neinteres\u0113, ko vi\u0146i saka un ko vi\u0146i lemj. Pantu nevar p\u0101rkvalific\u0113t, nevar neko pielikt kl\u0101t.<\/p>

      \u2014 Jums ir k\u0101ds draud\u0113jis?<\/p>

      \u2014 J\u0101, kam\u0113r s\u0113\u017eu, k\u0101das tr\u012bs reizes ir biju\u0161i t\u0101di varianti.<\/p>

      \u2014 Jums zin\u0101ms, kur\u0161?<\/p>

      \u2014 J\u0101, es zinu, bet negribu teikt, kur\u0161 nodeva. Tas viss tika pateikts vair\u0101kas reizes, ar\u012b ar advok\u0101ta starpniec\u012bbu. Bet nu vi\u0146i zina, ka mani tas absol\u016bti neuztrauc, es uz to nerea\u0123\u0113ju.<\/p>

      \u2014 J\u0101, bet tas ir diezgan re\u0101li\u2026<\/p>

      \u2014 Viss \u0161aj\u0101 dz\u012bv\u0113 ir re\u0101li. Vai tad vi\u0146iem kr\u016btis no t\u0113rauda? Atbilde jau var b\u016bt t\u0101da pati. Tom\u0113r es person\u012bgi visur uzsveru, ka netaisos nevienu ne \u0161aut, ne “pas\u016bt\u012bt”. Turos stingri likum\u0101 noteikt\u0101s robe\u017e\u0101s. Ja k\u0101dam taisu probl\u0113mas, tad likuma robe\u017e\u0101s.<\/p>

      \u2014 J\u016bs tagad esat \u0101r\u0101 no sp\u0113les\u2026<\/p>

      \u2014 Es t\u0101 neuzskatu. Esmu sp\u0113j\u012bgs, kad izie\u0161u no cietuma, atjaunot, rad\u012bt politisko sp\u0113ku un tikt pie politisk\u0101s varas.<\/p>

      \u2014 Bet kur palika nauda?<\/p>

      \u2014 M\u0113s par to zin\u0101m\u0101 m\u0113r\u0101 esam gatavi run\u0101t. \u0160is jaut\u0101jums ir t\u0101ds: ja k\u0101ds apgalvo, ka ventspilnieki kaut ko no \u0161\u012bs naudas ir sagr\u0101bu\u0161i, t\u0101s ir piln\u012bgas mu\u013c\u0137\u012bbas. Neviens no Ventspils grup\u0113juma neko nav sa\u0146\u0113mis, neko nav dar\u012bjis, nek\u0101das noziedz\u012bg\u0101s vieno\u0161an\u0101s ar mani nav veicis, un nekas t\u0101ds nav bijis. Tas patlaban ir vien\u012bgais no lielajiem grup\u0113jumiem, kas tie\u0161\u0101m dara to, kas ir j\u0101dara. Pat tad, ja vi\u0146iem ir k\u0101da vieno\u0161an\u0101s, kas rada m\u012bnusus, \u2014 ja vi\u0146i savu v\u0101rdu ir devu\u0161i, vi\u0146i to izpild\u012bs. Visi p\u0101r\u0113jie str\u0101d\u0101 uz “ap\u010dakar\u0113\u0161anu”. Lai k\u0101du “piej\u0101tu”. Tas ir pa\u0161reiz\u0113jo politiski ekonomisko sp\u0113ku princips. Ar\u012b Indriksona princips, vi\u0146a grupas princips.<\/p>

      \u2014 Vai j\u016bsu aspekts var\u0113tu b\u016bt viens no papildu faktoriem, kas sekm\u0113ja bankas “Baltija” nogremd\u0113\u0161anu?<\/p>

      \u2014 Banku “Baltija” (BB) jau toreiz bija nolemts “norakt”. Bet vi\u0146i jau nebankrot\u0113ja spont\u0101ni. Ja valsts neb\u016btu grib\u0113jusi likvid\u0113t BB, t\u0101 nekad neb\u016btu likvid\u0113ta. Jo probl\u0113mas, kas bija BB, bija ar\u012b jebkurai citai bankai. Te ir konkr\u0113ti fakti. Lavents ar BB bija k\u013cuvu\u0161i p\u0101r\u0101k ietekm\u012bgi ne tikai Latvij\u0101, bet ar\u012b Baltij\u0101 un Austrumeirop\u0101. Tas trauc\u0113ja Rietumiem \u0161eit par velti privatiz\u0113t visu p\u0113c k\u0101rtas. Ja banka b\u016btu bijusi, neb\u016btu vajadz\u012bgs Rietumu kapit\u0101ls, jo viss notika tepat uz vietas. Caur BB n\u0101ca iek\u0161\u0101 Krievijas, Austrumu kapit\u0101ls, kas ar\u012b nepatika Rietumiem. Un v\u0113l \u2014 BB ar saviem kred\u012btl\u012bgumiem bija nodro\u0161in\u0101jusi p\u0101r\u0101k lielu politiski ekonomisko varu Latvij\u0101. Vi\u0146i jau bija bankas kontrol\u0113, t\u0101tad ar\u012b Laventa kontrol\u0113. Elite nol\u0113ma, ka Lavents p\u0101r\u0101k daudz koncentr\u0113jis sav\u0101s rok\u0101s, citiem nekas nepaliek, t\u0101tad vi\u0146\u0161 j\u0101likvid\u0113, lai sadal\u012btu, p\u0101rdal\u012btu. \u0160eit Rietumu v\u0113lmes sakrita ar valsts politisk\u0101s elites v\u0113lm\u0113m. Vi\u0146\u0161 bija viens no vi\u0146iem, vi\u0146i vi\u0146a priek\u0161\u0101 klan\u012bj\u0101s, tom\u0113r vien\u0101 br\u012bd\u012b nol\u0113ma, ka vi\u0146\u0161 j\u0101likvid\u0113, “j\u0101liek iek\u0161\u0101” un j\u0101p\u0101rdala viss, ko vi\u0146\u0161 ir pa\u0146\u0113mis.<\/p>

      \u2014 J\u016bs zin\u0101m\u0101 m\u0113r\u0101 esat likte\u0146a br\u0101\u013ci\u2026<\/p>

      \u2014 J\u0101, bet es nep\u0101rdz\u012bvoju, dom\u0101ju, ka ar\u012b Lavents nep\u0101rdz\u012bvo. Es izn\u0101k\u0161u \u0101r\u0101, Lavents izn\u0101ks \u0101r\u0101 un ekonomiski politiski nostiprin\u0101sies, es ar\u012b nostiprin\u0101\u0161os. Nek\u0101du probl\u0113mu.<\/p>

      \u2014 J\u016bs dom\u0101jat palikt str\u0101d\u0101t Latvij\u0101?<\/p>

      \u2014 Tas ir str\u012bd\u012bgs jaut\u0101jums.<\/p>

      \u2014 Kam j\u016bs v\u0113laties sp\u012bt\u0113t?<\/p>

      \u2014 K\u0101p\u0113c ne? K\u0101p\u0113c man b\u016btu j\u0101ats\u0113\u017e tik daudz gadu un viss t\u0101 vienk\u0101r\u0161i j\u0101atst\u0101j. Es sev neprasu diktatora ties\u012bbas, es prasu da\u013cu no politiski ekonomisk\u0101s varas. Savu da\u013cu, kas man likum\u012bgi pien\u0101kas.<\/p>

      \u2014 J\u016bs gribat b\u016bt ministrs?<\/p>

      \u2014 Negribu. Tas man absol\u016bti nav vajadz\u012bgs.<\/p>

      \u2014 Ko tad j\u016bs v\u0113l\u0113tos dar\u012bt?<\/p>

      \u2014 Es gribu b\u016bt t\u0101s politiski ekonomisk\u0101s grupas sast\u0101v\u0101, kura lemj par to, kas notiks Latvij\u0101. Negribu pa\u0146emt ministriju un dal\u012bt valsts bud\u017eetu. Es zinu, kur un k\u0101 nopeln\u012bt naudu. Ja es izeju br\u012bv\u012bb\u0101 un veidoju politisko sp\u0113ku, veidoju t\u0101du, kas ir pret Eiropas Savien\u012bbu.<\/p>

      1998. gad\u0101, kad es izn\u0101cu \u0101r\u0101, man bija saruna ar Indriksonu, kur\u0101 m\u0113s m\u0113\u0123in\u0101j\u0101m sak\u0101rtot person\u012bgos jaut\u0101jumus. Nos\u0113d\u0101mies kop\u0101. Vi\u0146\u0161 saka: k\u0101dam dz\u012bv\u0113 veicas, k\u0101dam neveicas. Tagad ir vieno\u0161an\u0101s ar partij\u0101m, ka tu ej politiskaj\u0101 c\u012b\u0146\u0101, tu nevelc \u0101r\u0101 kompromatus par vi\u0146iem, vi\u0146i pret tevi neizmanto pretlikum\u012bgas metodes, vis\u0101dus \u0161ant\u0101\u017eas variantus. Es saku: sak\u0101rtosim m\u016bsu jaut\u0101jumus. Nosl\u0113dz\u0101m “nulles vieno\u0161anos”. Neko nerakst\u012bj\u0101m, mutiski. Par liel\u0101m summ\u0101m un milz\u012bg\u0101m. Vi\u0146am bija man j\u0101samaks\u0101 noteikta summa naudas, tad es atsakos no vis\u0101m pretenzij\u0101m par to, ko vi\u0146\u0161 ir p\u0101r\u0146\u0113mis. Man bija da\u013ca no “TV R\u012bga”, vi\u0146\u0161 p\u0101r\u0146\u0113ma “Alfu”, kur re\u0101li biju vair\u0101kus miljonus ielicis, daudzus citus objektus. Man bija da\u013cas daudz\u0101s firm\u0101s. Pied\u0101v\u0101ju visu aizmirst par samaksu. Summa bija maza, tai vajadz\u0113ja b\u016bt samaks\u0101tai 1998. gada septembr\u012b. Otrs variants \u2014 jaut\u0101jums par \u012bpa\u0161umu J\u016brmal\u0101. Indriksons grib\u0113ja p\u0101r\u0146emt \u0161o \u012bpa\u0161umu. Es piekritu. Sarun\u0101j\u0101m summu, vi\u0146\u0161 apsol\u012bja m\u0113ne\u0161a laik\u0101 samaks\u0101t. Patlaban probl\u0113ma ir t\u0101, ka Indriksons nav nok\u0101rtojis \u0161os jaut\u0101jumus. Esmu s\u016bt\u012bjis dokumentus (Iek\u0161lietu ministrijas) valsts sekret\u0101ram Andrim Starim. Publik\u0101cija “Vakara Zi\u0146\u0101s” (Stendzenieka atkl\u0101t\u0101 v\u0113stule 25.janv\u0101ra numur\u0101. \u2014 E. I.) bija p\u0113d\u0113jais atg\u0101din\u0101jums.<\/p>

      Es to Indriksonam atg\u0101din\u0101ju. K\u0101du br\u012bdi vi\u0146\u0161 pat maks\u0101ja, bet p\u0101rtrauca, l\u012bdzko biju atk\u0101rtoti arest\u0113ts. Tad vien\u0101 br\u012bd\u012b vi\u0146\u0161 pazi\u0146oja, ka jaut\u0101jumu ir sak\u0101rtojis. Es zinu, ka sak\u0101rtots nav nekas. 2001. gad\u0101, lai sniegtu zob\u0101rstniec\u012bbas pakalpojumus, mani konvoj\u0113ja no Stabu ielas, un man nebija, ar ko maks\u0101t. Es vi\u0146am piezvan\u012bju, teiksim, leg\u0101li\u2026 Neleg\u0101li piezvan\u012bju no Mat\u012bsa cietuma pag\u0101ju\u0161\u0101 gada vasar\u0101 \u2014 Gun\u010dik, t\u0101ds un t\u0101ds jaut\u0101jums, k\u0101p\u0113c nek\u0101rto manus par\u0101dus? Kad vi\u0146\u0161 atteic\u0101s k\u0101rtot 1999. gada vasar\u0101, es s\u0101ku prokurat\u016brai, SAB un Dro\u0161\u012bbas policijai sniegt inform\u0101ciju par vi\u0146a nelikum\u012bgajiem dar\u012bjumiem. Atsevi\u0161\u0137iem. Par “Lattelekom” privatiz\u0101ciju \u2014 vi\u0146\u0161 piedal\u012bj\u0101s taj\u0101, daudz vi\u0146\u0161 tur nenopeln\u012bja. Da\u013ca vi\u0146am pien\u0101c\u0101s, vi\u0146\u0161 sa\u0146\u0113ma kompens\u0101ciju, to pirmo kukuli, kad Kehris brauca uz Londonu parakst\u012bt pap\u012brus. Bija SAB l\u0113mums neierosin\u0101t krimin\u0101llietu, \u0122ener\u0101lprokurat\u016bra p\u0113c manas s\u016bdz\u012bbas \u0161o l\u0113mumu atc\u0113la, \u0161obr\u012bd SAB \u0161o jaut\u0101jumu it k\u0101 izskata jau pusotru gadu.<\/p>

      \u2014 Asto\u0146i miljoni, j\u016bs teic\u0101t, tika sadal\u012bti starp amatperson\u0101m, kad tika nosl\u0113gts “Lattelekom” l\u012bgums\u2026<\/p>

      \u2014 J\u0101. To inform\u0101ciju man Indriksons person\u012bgi pateica, kad atbrauca uz V\u0101ciju. Bija runa par to, k\u0101 ieiet tele biznes\u0101. Vi\u0146\u0161 teica: es pats esmu \u0161ok\u0101, ka to var\u0113ja izdar\u012bt t\u0101, k\u0101 tas tika izdar\u012bts. Tagad es uzskatu \u2014 vi\u0146\u0161 teica, ka Latvij\u0101 var nopirkt visu, jebko, k\u0101 gribu un k\u0101d\u0101 veid\u0101. Tagad Indriksons saka: “K\u0101p\u0113c tu man taisi s\u016bdus? Visu laiku man tavu iesniegumu d\u0113\u013c “j\u0101ble\u0137o” kuku\u013ci, johaid\u012b. Lai es izvair\u012btos no krimin\u0101lliet\u0101m, j\u0101maks\u0101 policij\u0101 un \u0122ener\u0101lprokurat\u016br\u0101.” Bija ierosin\u0101ta lieta par vi\u0146a nelikum\u012bg\u0101m darb\u012bb\u0101m kop\u0101 ar Ekonomikas policijas priek\u0161nieku Viesturu Briedi, par kuru es iesniedzu dokumentus. Ta\u010du Maiz\u012btis uzrakst\u012bja atteikumu, kaut gan es uzskatu, ka nebija izdar\u012bts viss, lai sav\u0101ktu pier\u0101d\u012bjumus. Bet var\u0113ja sav\u0101kt. Piem\u0113ram, par Liep\u0101jas ostu, kur vi\u0146\u0161 uzst\u0101d\u012bja celtni, kas no “Latvijas zvejniec\u012bbas” pa\u0146emts. Tika uzst\u0101d\u012bts kr\u0101ns, ko vi\u0146\u0161 pa\u0146\u0113ma par 15 t\u016bksto\u0161iem, p\u0113c tam tika noform\u0113ti dokumenti caur kaut k\u0101d\u0101m \u0101rzonas firm\u0101m. Skaidro naudu no t\u0101 kred\u012bta Indriksons sa\u0146\u0113ma no manis V\u0101cij\u0101; vi\u0146\u0161 person\u012bgi sa\u0146\u0113ma miljons dol\u0101ru. Es esmu piepras\u012bjis Dro\u0161\u012bbas policijai un \u0122ener\u0101lprokurat\u016brai \u2014 vi\u0146i var p\u0101rbaud\u012bt banku r\u0113\u0137inus.<\/p>

      \u2014 K\u0101p\u0113c j\u016bs vi\u0146am p\u0101rskait\u012bj\u0101t naudu?<\/p>

      \u2014 Vi\u0146\u0161 sa\u0146\u0113ma G\u201324 kred\u012btu, tas tika p\u0101rskait\u012bts uz manu kontu V\u0101cij\u0101, es vi\u0146am izsniedzu to atpaka\u013c skaidr\u0101 naud\u0101. Bet \u0161eit ir noform\u0113ts, ka par G\u201324 ir nopirkts kr\u0101ns un celtniec\u012bbas tehnika. Noform\u0113ts, ka it k\u0101 izt\u0113r\u0113ts miljons, bet kr\u0101ns nopirkts par 15 t\u016bksto\u0161iem. P\u0113c tam vi\u0146\u0161 ir iebildis, bet es teicu, ka tais\u012b\u0161u probl\u0113mas vi\u0146am un ar vi\u0146u saist\u012bt\u0101m liet\u0101m, ja vi\u0146\u0161 nemaks\u0101s. 1998. gada septembr\u012b vi\u0146am bija man j\u0101samaks\u0101 tikai 289 t\u016bksto\u0161i. Pa\u0161reiz\u0113j\u0101 moment\u0101 es no vi\u0146a gribu 438 124 dol\u0101rus. Tad esmu gatavs “necelt” nevienu jaut\u0101jumu, nevienu neaiztikt. Bet vi\u0146a variants bija \u2014 es jau esmu samaks\u0101jis. Vispirms \u2014 tavam advok\u0101tam. Simtiem t\u016bksto\u0161u Saulvedim V\u0101rpi\u0146am. Var b\u016bt, dom\u0101ju. V\u0101rpi\u0146\u0161 lai par\u0101da man pap\u012bru, ko Indriksona pal\u012bgs parakst\u012bjis par V\u0101rpi\u0146am iedot\u0101m naudas summ\u0101m. Te ir summa, ko vi\u0146\u0161 man samaks\u0101ja 1998. gada vasar\u0101 \u2014 60 700 re\u0101li izmaks\u0101ja. Tad vi\u0146\u0161 man pazi\u0146oja, ka ir V\u0101rpi\u0146am samaks\u0101jis vismaz<\/p>

      100 t\u016bksto\u0161us dol\u0101ru. Es izr\u0113\u0137in\u0101ju, ka ir samaks\u0101ti 23 t\u016bksto\u0161i. Nek\u0101dus 100 t\u016bksto\u0161us vi\u0146\u0161 nav maks\u0101jis. T\u0101l\u0101k vi\u0146\u0161 pazi\u0146oja, ka man\u0101 viet\u0101 ir samaks\u0101jis Alberta Kaula par\u0101dus. Vi\u0146\u0161 esot \u0146\u0113mis man\u0101 v\u0101rd\u0101; jums bija partija (Vien\u012bbas partija, ko sponsor\u0113ja Stendzenieks, ieguva asto\u0146as vietas Saeim\u0101 1995. gada v\u0113l\u0113\u0161an\u0101s \u2014 E. I.). Es teicu: “Gun\u010dik, mums bija vieno\u0161an\u0101s, ka tu man\u0101 viet\u0101 nemaks\u0101si nek\u0101dus par\u0101dus. Es atbildu par sav\u0101m saist\u012bb\u0101m pats. Kur ir mana nauda?” Vi\u0146\u0161 saka: “Es tev neko maks\u0101t netaisos, esmu gatavs tev pal\u012bdz\u0113t, kad atbr\u012bvosies. Bet tev ir publiski j\u0101atvainojas, j\u0101pasaka \u2014 es tev neko neesmu par\u0101d\u0101.” Kas es \u2014 idiots, k\u0101p\u0113c man tas b\u016btu publiski j\u0101pasaka? Raksturs Gun\u010dikam ir main\u012bjies uz slikto pusi, kam\u0113r vi\u0146\u0161 naudi\u0146u peln\u012bjis, jo, ja vi\u0146am cilv\u0113ki vairs nav vajadz\u012bgi, vi\u0146\u0161 vairs nemaks\u0101. Bet es netaisos vi\u0146a priek\u0161\u0101 piek\u0101pties. Vi\u0146\u0161 sac\u012bja: ja es netaisu troksni, sa\u0146em\u0161u katru m\u0113nesi 1000 dol\u0101ru. Mums bija ofici\u0101li at\u013cauta telefonsaruna p\u0113c “Vakara Zi\u0146u” publik\u0101cijas. Vi\u0146\u0161 teica: “Tu mani reket\u0113. Ja apst\u0101sies, sa\u0146emsi 1000 dol\u0101rus m\u0113nes\u012b. Tikai pazi\u0146o ofici\u0101li, ka es tev neko neesmu par\u0101d\u0101.” Ta\u010du vi\u0146\u0161 jau agr\u0101k bija sol\u012bjis maks\u0101t 3000 m\u0113nes\u012b, bet samaks\u0101ja tikai divreiz \u2014 pag\u0101ju\u0161\u0101 gada j\u016blij\u0101 un august\u0101, p\u0113c tam ir izmaks\u0101jis v\u0113l se\u0161us t\u016bksto\u0161us. Kop\u0101 ar to, ko samaks\u0101jis advok\u0101tam, \u2014 29 t\u016bksto\u0161i. Tas ir skaidr\u0101 naud\u0101…<\/p>

      \u2014 Skaidrai naudai vajadz\u012bgi smuki \u010demod\u0101ni\u0146i. K\u0101dos \u010demod\u0101ni\u0146os vi\u0146\u0161 nes naudu?<\/p>

      \u2014 Kad V\u0101cij\u0101 Gun\u010da sa\u0146\u0113ma G\u201324 kred\u012btu skaidr\u0101 naud\u0101, m\u0113s to ielik\u0101m vienk\u0101r\u0161\u0101 plastmasas “ta\u0161\u0101”. Humora p\u0113c varat ierakst\u012bt \u2014 aizg\u0101j\u0101m uz priekam\u0101ju; meitenes prasa, kas jums somi\u0146\u0101, m\u0113s atbildam: autodeta\u013cas, karburatoru nopirk\u0101m.<\/p>

      \u2014 K\u0101das meitenes Indriksonam pat\u012bk?<\/p>

      \u2014 Smukas, smukas, mums abiem pat\u012bk smukas meitenes. Indriksons p\u0113d\u0113j\u0101 sarun\u0101 ir pateicis, ka person\u012bgi ticies un nodevis Iek\u0161lietu ministrijas vad\u012bbai inform\u0101ciju, ka es vi\u0146u reket\u0113jot. Vi\u0146\u0161 uzskatot, ka vi\u0146a dz\u012bv\u012bba un vesel\u012bba ir apdraud\u0113ta un iesp\u0113jams, ka es vi\u0146u varot likvid\u0113t un “nov\u0101kt”. T\u0101p\u0113c uzrakst\u012bju ofici\u0101lu v\u0113stuli, ka netaisos Indriksonu ne at\u0161aut, ne “pas\u016bt\u012bt”. Bet es dar\u012b\u0161u visu iesp\u0113jamo likumu robe\u017e\u0101s, lai grautu vi\u0146a politisko un ekonomisko labkl\u0101j\u012bbu, grautu vi\u0146a firmu un rad\u012btu probl\u0113mas cilv\u0113kiem, kas ar vi\u0146u sadarbojas, lai vi\u0146i pasaka vi\u0146am paldies.<\/p>

      3. apr\u012bl\u012b s\u0101ksies tiesa, laikam jau t\u0101 notiks. Es past\u0101vu, ka kred\u012btu pa\u0146\u0113mu likum\u012bgi un norm\u0101li, ar\u012b ventspilnieki neko nepareizu un sliktu nav izdar\u012bju\u0161i, bet te ir radu\u0161\u0101s probl\u0113mas. Daudziem \u0161\u012bs probl\u0113mas b\u016bs \u013coti smagas. Ar\u012b daudziem politisk\u0101s elites p\u0101rst\u0101vjiem. Lai pasaka paldies Gun\u010dikam, kas atsak\u0101s k\u0101rtot savas finan\u0161u saist\u012bbas pret Stendzenieku.<\/p>

      \u2014 P\u0113c Indriksona pa\u0161a v\u0101rdiem, vi\u0146am nav labas attiec\u012bbas ar vienu partiju, ir attiec\u012bbas ar cilv\u0113kiem daudz\u0101s partij\u0101s.<\/p>

      \u2014 T\u0101 ir. Vi\u0146\u0161 ir pabeidzis PSRS \u0101r\u0113j\u0101s izl\u016bko\u0161anas augst\u0101ko skolu, ieguvis labu sagatavot\u012bbu. Dom\u0101ju, ka vi\u0146\u0161 t\u0101p\u0113c ar\u012b tika gatavots, ja Latvija, Lietuva un Igaunija atvienosies. Vi\u0146\u0161 t\u0101 ar\u012b teica: “Armand, es eju uz t\u0101m lekcij\u0101m, kur m\u0101ca cilv\u0113kus “ap\u010dakar\u0113t”, man tas vislab\u0101k pat\u012bk.” J\u0101, protams, vi\u0146\u0161 uztur sakarus ar vis\u0101m partij\u0101m, vis\u0101m partij\u0101m vi\u0146\u0161 maks\u0101. Nep\u0101rprotami maks\u0101, regul\u0101ri. Turkl\u0101t ir regul\u0101r\u0101s iemaksas, un otra lieta \u2014 par cauri “izdz\u012btajiem” projektiem. Ar vienu \u0161ant\u0101\u017eu vi\u0146\u0161 tagad nevar, vi\u0146am j\u0101rada ekonomisk\u0101 ieinteres\u0113t\u012bba, un vi\u0146\u0161 to ar\u012b rada. Vi\u0146\u0161 rada pie viena, otra, tre\u0161\u0101, str\u0101d\u0101 R\u012bgas Dom\u0113 pie jebkuras vald\u012bbas, str\u0101d\u0101 ar vis\u0101m partij\u0101m, neaizmirst ar\u012b opoz\u012bciju. Vi\u0146\u0161 bija tas, kas toreiz pal\u012bdz\u0113ja (Demokr\u0101tisko partiju) “Saimnieks” nob\u012bd\u012bt mal\u0101. Ideju, ko vi\u0146\u0161 pameta \u010ceveram \u2014 tagad paej mal\u0101, vi\u0146\u0161 iemeta iek\u0161\u0101 caur cilv\u0113kiem. Ar “Latvijas ce\u013cu” un cilv\u0113kiem visur aug\u0161\u0101 vienoj\u0101s, ka j\u0101pab\u012bda mal\u0101, \u010ceveram “pab\u012bd\u012bja” ideju, ka j\u0101paiet mal\u0101, j\u0101iziet no vald\u012bbas, vi\u0146u nep\u0101rprotami pa\u0146ems atpaka\u013c, ka vi\u0146\u0161 ieg\u016bs no t\u0101. Kad \u010cevers bija zaud\u0113jis, s\u0113d\u0113ju Indriksona kabinet\u0101 un vi\u0146\u0161 teica savam pal\u012bgam: “Ziedonis zvan\u012bja, naudi\u0146u vajagot.<\/p>

      11 \u2014 12 t\u016bksto\u0161us, vi\u0146\u0161 saka. Vair\u0101k nedod, saki, ka vair\u0101k nav. Pirm\u0101m k\u0101rt\u0101m cilv\u0113ks b\u016bs priec\u012bgs, ka vi\u0146u t\u0101d\u0101 br\u012bd\u012b atcer\u0113ju\u0161ies, vi\u0146am neb\u016bs pamata teikt, ka neesam pal\u012bdz\u0113ju\u0161i.”<\/p>

      \u2014 Vai \u010cevers bija izpild\u012bt\u0101js?<\/p>

      \u2014 T\u0101 nevar teikt, vi\u0146\u0161, ie\u0146emot iek\u0161lietu ministra amatu, daudz pats dar\u012bja, bet ar Indriksonu tika milz\u012bgi daudz kas saska\u0146ots. Gan taj\u0101 l\u012bmen\u012b, gan citos. Kas tagad dz\u012bvo Indriksona dz\u012bvokl\u012b Blauma\u0146a iel\u0101? Pante\u013c\u0113jevs taj\u0101 pa\u0161\u0101 \u0113k\u0101, taj\u0101 pa\u0161\u0101 k\u0101p\u0146u telp\u0101, Kehris\u2026 visi jaut\u0101jumi tiek saska\u0146oti. Vai pie Andreja, Gun\u010dika vai Kehra\u2026 atrisina visus jaut\u0101jumus. Tas jau galvenais \u0161t\u0101bs. Ir v\u0113l p\u0101ris dz\u012bvok\u013cu R\u012bg\u0101, kur t\u0101di jaut\u0101jumi tiek sak\u0101rtoti. Birznieka\u2013Up\u012b\u0161a iel\u0101 ir t\u0101ds dz\u012bvoklis\u2026 Taj\u0101 pa\u0161\u0101 laik\u0101 vi\u0146a attieksme pret cilv\u0113kiem\u2026 K\u0101dreiz m\u0113s aizg\u0101j\u0101m polemik\u0101 ar Pan-te\u013c\u0113jevu, es Gun\u010dikam saku: “Klausies, tev nav vienalga?” Bet vi\u0146\u0161 saka: “A man pie d\u2026 Andrejs \u0161oreiz, man visi jaut\u0101jumi ar Kehri sak\u0101rtoti. Man ir svar\u012bgi, lai Oj\u0101rs iet uz priek\u0161u, man tur viss bizness.”<\/p>

      \u2014 Ja v\u0113laties, lai Indriksons jums atmaks\u0101 naudu, vai tas noz\u012bm\u0113, ka jums ir finansi\u0101las gr\u016bt\u012bbas?<\/p>

      \u2014 Man nek\u0101 laba nav. Ko j\u016bs dom\u0101jat \u2014 Stendzenieks miljonus sazadzies? To jau esmu teicis prokurat\u016br\u0101: ja zin\u0101tu, ka ar mani t\u0101 apiesies, es b\u016btu tie\u0161\u0101m nozadzis. Tagad nes\u0113d\u0113tu, s\u0113d\u0113tu ar visiem miljoniem, neviens man tuvum\u0101 nepieietu. No\u017e\u0113loju, ka nenozagu visus. Bet ko nu no\u017e\u0113lot \u2014 tas ir gar\u0101m. Ies t\u0101l\u0101k, nopeln\u012b\u0161u. K\u0101p\u0113c lai es priec\u0101tos? Man sieva dz\u012bvo \u012br\u0113t\u0101 dz\u012bvokl\u012b ar \u0123imeni, puikas p\u0113c skolas str\u0101d\u0101, sieva str\u0101d\u0101. Bet vi\u0146i brauk\u0101 pa k\u016brortiem un “dr\u0101\u017e” vecenes par 1000 dol\u0101riem dien\u0101. Ir starp\u012bba. Bet vi\u0146\u0161 negrib nok\u0101rtot to, ko vi\u0146am pien\u0101kas nok\u0101rtot.<\/p>

      \u2014 Vai j\u016bsu nodoms ir ties\u0101 visu par Indriksonu past\u0101st\u012bt?<\/p>

      \u2014 Nu, m\u0113s t\u0101pat varam sak\u0101rtot, nemaz nav j\u0101gaida l\u012bdz tiesai. Atz\u012bstos, ka izdaru atkl\u0101tu spiedienu.<\/p>

      \u2014 Vai t\u0101, ko piepras\u0101t, ir adekv\u0101ta summa vi\u0146a par\u0101diem jums?<\/p>

      \u2014 \u013boti minim\u0101la. Es jums r\u0101du pap\u012brus, te ir kaut k\u0101ds Guntis, vi\u0146\u0161 ir sa\u0146\u0113mis \u010detrus miljonus 300 t\u016bksto\u0161us dol\u0101ru. V\u0101cij\u0101 man dro\u0161\u0101 viet\u0101 ir par\u0101dz\u012bme, ko Guntis parakst\u012bjis pa\u0161roc\u012bgi \u2014 par 4,3 miljoniem dol\u0101ru. Redziet (R\u0101da dokumentus. \u2014 E. I.), \u0161eit ir p\u0101rskait\u012bjumi, kas veikti no manas bankas V\u0101cij\u0101. Te ir rakst\u012bts \u2014 488 500 USD. Tie ir p\u0101rskait\u012bjumi firmai “Skonto” k\u0101 kred\u012bts. Starp citu, prokurors Juris P\u0113da ir piepras\u012bjis inform\u0101ciju no bankas, minot nepareizu datumu, t\u0101p\u0113c sa\u0146\u0113mis atbildi, ka nek\u0101ds p\u0101rskait\u012bjums nav noticis.<\/p>

      \u2014 Cik naudas esat p\u0101rskait\u012bjis “Skonto”?<\/p>

      \u2014 Re\u0101li varam run\u0101t pavisam par 12 miljoniem, kas p\u0101rskait\u012bti. Bet ir 4,3, kas skaidr\u0101 naud\u0101 nodoti varb\u016bt k\u0101dam Guntim\u2026 V\u0113l es grib\u0113tu zin\u0101t, vai no t\u0101m summ\u0101m, kuras te viens otrs dal\u012bja ar politi\u0137iem, vai politi\u0137i ir visu sa\u0146\u0113mu\u0161i vai tikai da\u013ci\u0146u? Man rodas aizdomas, ka tikai da\u013ci\u0146u.<\/p>

      \u2014 Summas, kas dal\u012btas ar politi\u0137iem, ir j\u016bsu nauda, kura caur Indriksonu aizg\u0101jusi politik\u0101?<\/p>

      \u2014 J\u0101, j\u0101, bet man ir b\u016btiskas \u0161aubas, cik liela summa aizg\u0101jusi politi\u0137iem. Ir aizdomas, ka liel\u0101k\u0101 da\u013ca ir palikusi.<\/p>

      \u2014 Vai v\u0113l ir paliku\u0161as mums nezin\u0101mas nianses \u0161aj\u0101 liet\u0101?<\/p>

      \u2014 Viesturs Briedis ir iesaist\u012bts. Man nav nek\u0101das v\u0113l\u0113\u0161an\u0101s Briedi aiztikt, vi\u0146\u0161 man neko nav izdar\u012bjis. Bet Briedis ir neap\u0161aub\u0101ms Indriksona cilv\u0113ks, Ekonomikas policijas priek\u0161nieks ir vi\u0146a person\u012bgais cilv\u0113ks, kur\u0161 izpilda visus vi\u0146a pas\u016bt\u012bjumus, ar kuru tiek k\u0101rtotas kop\u0113jas kombin\u0101cijas. Esmu gatavs to apliecin\u0101t, pier\u0101d\u012bt, pie t\u0101 str\u0101d\u0101t. Bet Briedis \u0161oreiz lai pasaka paldies In-driksonam. Briedis ir vair\u0101kk\u0101rt atp\u016bties pie manis V\u0101cij\u0101 t\u0101p\u0113c, ka Indriksons l\u016bdza, lai vi\u0146u uz\u0146emu, vi\u0146am gr\u016bts darbs. Vi\u0146\u0161 k\u0101rto jaut\u0101jumus ar Gun\u010du. Es ieeju pie Indriksona kabinet\u0101, Briedis iek\u0161\u0101. Vi\u0146\u0161 nesaprot, In-driksons ir gudrs vecis, vi\u0146\u0161 ir mu\u013c\u0137is, Viesturs. Vi\u0146\u0161 ien\u0101k iek\u0161\u0101 un man\u0101 kl\u0101tb\u016btn\u0113 saka: “Nu, Gun\u010da, p\u0113d\u0113jais jaut\u0101jums baigi for\u0161i izg\u0101ja cauri, ve\u010di paldies tev saka par nopeln\u012bto naudi\u0146u. Drag\u0101 jaunu sh\u0113mu, ve\u010diem naudu vajag.”<\/p>

      \u2014 Vai Viesturam Briedim pieder k\u0101di \u012bpa\u0161umi?<\/p>

      \u2014 Vi\u0146am pieder re\u0101l\u0101 ekonomisk\u0101 vara. Vi\u0146\u0161 var ierosin\u0101t, neierosin\u0101t, izbeigt krimin\u0101llietu.<\/p>

      \u2014 K\u0101da ir Indriksona motiv\u0101cija?<\/p>

      \u2014 Vi\u0146\u0161 nav Krievijas a\u0123ents \u2014 tas viss ir mu\u013c\u0137\u012bbas. Vi\u0146\u0161 darbojas sav\u0101 variant\u0101, taisa aug\u0161\u0101 savu biznesu, pietiekami sp\u0113c\u012bgi kontrol\u0113 visus politiskos sp\u0113kus Latvij\u0101, ir viens no noteico\u0161ajiem cilv\u0113kiem Latvij\u0101, kur\u0161 regul\u0113, kur valsts iet un k\u0101 iet. Tehniski, diplom\u0101tiski, aizmugur\u0113 st\u0101vo\u0161s, bet vi\u0146\u0161 ir viens no tiem, kas to dara.<\/p>

      \u2014 Vai jums nepat\u012bk, k\u0101 vi\u0146\u0161 str\u0101d\u0101?<\/p>

      \u2014 Ja man b\u016btu politisk\u0101 vara.. bet t\u0101p\u0113c jau man to nedod. Ir biju\u0161as tik\u0161an\u0101s pirms un p\u0113c 1995. gada v\u0113l\u0113\u0161an\u0101m C\u012brih\u0113 ar Pante\u013c\u0113jevu, Kehri, Gunti Indriksonu toreiz, Frankfurt\u0113 bija tik\u0161an\u0101s. Vi\u0146i pras\u012bja, ko dar\u012bt. Kehris p\u0113c tam teica, ka es esmu dulls. Zinu, k\u0101p\u0113c mani nelai\u017e, es ne\u013cautu izlaup\u012bt val-sti.<\/p>

      \u2014 K\u0101 sadal\u012bja “Latvenergo” tr\u012bs miljonus?<\/p>

      \u2014 Viena no atsl\u0113gas fig\u016br\u0101m, kas kori\u0123\u0113ja \u0161o lietu, bija Indriksons.<\/p>

      \u2014 Vai vi\u0146\u0161 var\u0113tu b\u016bt sa\u0146\u0113mis da\u013cu naudas?<\/p>

      \u2014 Neap\u0161aub\u0101mi.<\/p>

      \u2014 J\u016bs rakst\u0101t gr\u0101matu par Latvijas politisko un ekonomisko eliti.<\/p>

      \u2014 J\u0101, bet t\u0101 var tikt un var netikt public\u0113ta. Tur ir par visiem notikumiem, liel\u0101kajiem privatiz\u0101cijas variantiem, af\u0113r\u0101m, situ\u0101ciju v\u0113l\u0113\u0161an\u0101s. K\u0101 \u0160\u0137\u0113li pirmoreiz pie varas palaida, k\u0101 tika pie\u0146emts l\u0113mums. Viens izvilkums bija \u2014 par to, k\u0101 \u010cevers pie manis brauca uz Londonu, kas sk\u0101ra vi\u0146a noz\u012bm\u0113\u0161anu vai nenoz\u012bm\u0113\u0161anu premjera amat\u0101. Otrs jaut\u0101jums \u2014 par Indriksona un “Latvijas ce\u013ca” politi\u0137u sadarb\u012bbu, mana telefonsaruna ar Gr\u012bn-blatu, \u0161ie 50 t\u016bksto\u0161i.<\/p>

      Starp citu, interesanti \u2014 viens otrs \u0122ener\u0101lprokurat\u016bras darbinieks (tur bija tr\u012bs, kas nodarboj\u0101s ar manu lietu) \u2014 prokurors Stepanovs, paskatieties, k\u0101 viens no vi\u0146iem dz\u012bvo. Cik zinu, vi\u0146\u0161 ir nopircis kolos\u0101lu priv\u0101tdz\u012bvokli par kaut k\u0101d\u0101m 100 \u2014 150 “\u0161tuk\u0101m”…<\/p>

      V\u0113l viens jaut\u0101jums \u2014 zvanu Indriksonam par par\u0101du, bet vi\u0146\u0161 saka: “Es jau nomaks\u0101ju Jurim Mui\u017eniekam. Vi\u0146\u0161 ir mans biju\u0161ais kurators, tagad vien\u0101 no augstskol\u0101m.” Kad iebildu, Indriksons pazi\u0146oja, ka Mui\u017enieks k\u0101rtojis visus jaut\u0101jumus ar \u0122ener\u0101lprokurat\u016bru, prokurori Ulpi. Bet k\u0101 bija \u2014 1997. gada s\u0101kum\u0101 Indriksons piezvan\u012bja man un teica, ka vi\u0146am zvan\u012bjis Jurka, vi\u0146am viss k\u0101rt\u012bb\u0101 ar Ulpi. Zvana Jurka Mui\u017enieks, saka: viss k\u0101rt\u012bb\u0101, tagad pie Ulpes, vi\u0146a tur priek\u0161niece. Tagad vajag sak\u0101rtot jaut\u0101jumus, Ulpei vajag dz\u012bvokli, vajag “d\u0101\u010du”, vajag kaut ko maks\u0101t. Es saku: “Par ko tad maks\u0101t?” Te piebild\u012b\u0161u \u2014 daudzi dom\u0101, ka nav fiks\u0101cijas. Ir fiks\u0101cija. Krimin\u0101llietas materi\u0101los ir atz\u012bme, ka ir piepras\u012bts V\u0101cijai, lai dod materi\u0101lus par mani. V\u0101cie\u0161i bija veiku\u0161i operat\u012bvo nov\u0113ro\u0161anu, noklaus\u012bj\u0101s telefonsarunas. Latvijai materi\u0101lus nedeva, bet pazi\u0146oja, ka tie atrodas arh\u012bv\u0101. Ta\u010du es varu griezties V\u0101cijas ties\u0101 un tos piepras\u012bt. Tur b\u016bs interesanti materi\u0101li par daudziem jaut\u0101jumiem. Nu, labi, es saku, ja vajag maks\u0101t, tad vajag. Aiznesu Jurim Mui\u017eniekam zin\u0101mu summu naudas, zvanu, prasu, kas ir. “J\u0101,” vi\u0146\u0161 saka, “viss k\u0101rt\u012bb\u0101, nauda nodota Ulpei, vi\u0146a p\u0113rk dz\u012bvokli.” Par\u0101d\u012bj\u0101s pres\u0113 inform\u0101cija, ka Ulpe nopirkusi dz\u012bvokli Stabu iel\u0101. Mui\u017enieks teica, ka vajag m\u0113beles priek\u0161 R\u012bgas sak\u0101rtot.<\/p>

      \u2014 Cik j\u016bs iedev\u0101t?<\/p>

      \u2014 Prec\u012bzi neatceros, 25\u2026 kaut kas tur bija no t\u0101s summas, man ir pierakst\u012bts.<\/p>

      \u2014 Vai jums ir k\u0101da versija, k\u0101p\u0113c nogalin\u0101ja tiesnesi J\u0101ni Laukrozi, kam bija j\u0101izskata j\u016bsu lieta?<\/p>

      \u2014 J\u0101, man ir versija. Terorism\u0101 aps\u016bdz\u0113tie \u2014 P\u0113terbazn\u012bcas torn\u012b. Dom\u0101ju, ka tad, kad tiesa tais\u012bja spriedumu, k\u0101ds Krievij\u0101 nol\u0113ma, ka tas ir nelikum\u012bgi. Jo hulig\u0101nisms tur bija, bet terorisma nebija. Dom\u0101ju, ka t\u0101 ir komanda no turienes. Esmu par likum\u012bg\u0101m metod\u0113m. Nu, Gun\u010diks t\u0101pat. At\u0161aut \u2014 nu, k\u0101da j\u0113ga vi\u0146u \u0161aut? J\u0101rada vi\u0146am probl\u0113mas, j\u0101rada sare\u017e\u0123\u012bjumi. Vi\u0146\u0161 ir norm\u0101ls vecis, k\u0101rt\u012bgs puika, \u010dekists. Ja samaks\u0101s, b\u016bsim draugi.<\/p>

      \u2014 K\u0101da veida kop\u012bgs bizness jums ir bijis?<\/p>

      \u2014 Pamat\u0101 ar met\u0101lu. “Caur mani” g\u0101ja met\u0101ls, ko “Skonto” sav\u0101 laik\u0101 s\u016bt\u012bja uz \u0101rzem\u0113m. Bet alkohola biznesu tais\u012bju pats. Neesmu bijis ar “Skonto”. Indriksons p\u0113c dabas ir godk\u0101r\u012bgs, vi\u0146am ir apzi\u0146a, ka vi\u0146\u0161 ir pirmais. Vi\u0146\u0161 trako sporta sacens\u012bb\u0101s, ja vi\u0146a komanda zaud\u0113. Pie\u013caut, ka k\u0101ds var\u0113tu piespiest vi\u0146u kaut ko izdar\u012bt, \u2014 tas vi\u0146am ir tas trak\u0101kais.<\/p>

      Bet ar visiem bija vieno\u0161an\u0101s. Ar Gunti Ulmani, “Latvijas ce\u013cu”, Tautas partiju. Neizpild\u012bja. Nu ko vi\u0146i grib, pa\u0161i vain\u012bgi.<\/p>

      \u2014 Vai ar Ulmani bija vieno\u0161an\u0101s?<\/p>

      \u2014 Esmu iesniedzis \u0122ener\u0101lprokurat\u016br\u0101 vair\u0101kus dokumentus, nos\u016bt\u012bjis parlamentam sakar\u0101 ar Ulma\u0146a saist\u012bbu ar kuku\u013c\u0146em\u0161anu. Neviens nerea\u0123\u0113. Ulmanis no manis ir sa\u0146\u0113mis 150 t\u016bksto\u0161us dol\u0101ru. Bet pier\u0101d\u012bt es to nevaru. Pag, cik izn\u0101ca, 120 vai 150? Neatceros. Bet nevaru to pier\u0101d\u012bt, nav nek\u0101du parakstu, person\u012bgi neesmu devis, bija starpnieki, kas deva. Zinu, kas deva. Ir pats fakts. Izejot no vi\u0146a r\u012bc\u012bbas \u2014 kas notika un k\u0101 notika. Vi\u0146a r\u012bc\u012bba bija nelo\u0123iska, ko var pier\u0101d\u012bt tikai ar naudas sa\u0146em\u0161anu. Tas bija sakar\u0101 ar premjera kandidat\u016bras noz\u012bm\u0113\u0161anu, kas bija \u010cevers, \u0160\u0137\u0113le taj\u0101 laik\u0101.<\/p>

      \u2014 Tad, kad vi\u0146\u0161 \u010ceveru nosauca?<\/p>

      \u2014 J\u0101, kad \u010ceveru noz\u012bm\u0113ja, nosauca, taj\u0101 sakar\u0101 tika veikti maks\u0101jumi Ulmanim. Bet nevaru to juridiski pier\u0101d\u012bt. Varu past\u0101v\u0113t uz sevi. Ja no manis pie\u0146em liec\u012bbas, es t\u0101s varu dot. Pier\u0101d\u012bt to, ka meloju, vi\u0146\u0161 ar\u012b nevar, es nemeloju. Man nav konkr\u0113tu pier\u0101d\u012bjumu dokumentu veid\u0101.<\/p>

      1998. gad\u0101, kad izg\u0101ju \u0101r\u0101, bija intervija ar Karginu. Vien\u0101 no \u017eurn\u0101liem. Karginam tika uzdots jaut\u0101jums: “Ko j\u016bs teiktu par miljon\u0101ru Stendzenieku?” Kargins atbild: “Vi\u0146\u0161 nav nek\u0101ds miljon\u0101rs, vi\u0146\u0161 ir bl\u0113dis, kam j\u0101s\u0113\u017e cietum\u0101.” \u012asa atbilde uz \u012bsu jaut\u0101jumu. Es ieeju pie Indriksona kabinet\u0101, vi\u0146\u0161 attaisa maci\u0146u va\u013c\u0101. Ir princips \u2014 salaist cilv\u0113kus ragos. Izvelk ar \u0161\u0137\u0113r\u012bt\u0113m izgrieztu jaut\u0101jumu un atbildi un saka: “Paskaties, ko tas \u017e\u012bds par tevi raksta. \u0100rpr\u0101ts, k\u0101di nekaun\u012bgi var b\u016bt cilv\u0113ki un rieb\u012bgi. Tu, kad pie varas tiksi, “izp\u2026” tos \u017e\u012bdus rikt\u012bgi abus divus, iedom\u0101jas par daudz.” Protams, Karginam vi\u0146\u0161 teiks pavisam ko citu: k\u0101ds tas Stendzenieks ir nelietis, maita un bl\u0113dis, un kr\u0101pnieks, vi\u0146am ar galvu viss nav k\u0101rt\u012bb\u0101, vi\u0146\u0161 visiem par\u0101d\u0101, man ar\u012b ir par\u0101d\u0101. Tas ir princips \u2014 vienam t\u0101, otram t\u0101, tre\u0161am t\u0101. Esmu gatavs dot Karginam jebk\u0101du zv\u0113restu, ka tie v\u0101rdi tie\u0161i t\u0101di bija. Es v\u0113l\u0113tos, lai Kargins un Krasovickis tos atcer\u0113tos br\u012bd\u012b, kad vi\u0146iem vajadz\u0113s Gun\u010diku “iz\u010dakar\u0113t”.<\/p>

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      Nobeigums<\/span><\/h3>

      \u0160odien public\u0113jam uz\u0146\u0113m\u0113ja Armanda Stendzenieka intervijas p\u0113d\u0113jo da\u013cu. Taj\u0101 vi\u0146\u0161 st\u0101sta par firmas “Skonto” darb\u012bbas aizkulis\u0113m, piemin pedofilijas skand\u0101lu un atkal nosauc augsti st\u0101vo\u0161u amatpersonu uzv\u0101rdus.<\/p>

      Un tad pie manis atskr\u0113ja \u0122ener\u0101lprokurat\u016bras sevi\u0161\u0137i svar\u012bgu lietu izmekl\u0113t\u0101ja Biruta Ulpe. S\u0113d\u0113j\u0101m m\u0113s \u2014 Ulpe, es, prokurors Modris Adlers. Vi\u0146\u0161 teica: Armand, tiek skat\u012bts jaut\u0101jums par krimin\u0101llietas izbeig\u0161anu pret Kokali un \u0160evcovu, ac\u012bmredzot t\u016bl\u012bt tiks pie\u0146emts l\u0113mums un divu tr\u012bs ned\u0113\u013cu laik\u0101 lieta tiks sl\u0113gta, un cauri. Es jaut\u0101ju: atbr\u012bvo\u0161anas dokumenti ir? Vi\u0146\u0161 saka: Armand, tu ta\u010du zi-ni \u2014 k\u0101da b\u016bs komanda, t\u0101da b\u016bs r\u012bc\u012bba. Teiks laist tevi \u0101r\u0101 \u2014 r\u012bt pap\u012bri b\u016bs parakst\u012bti, teiks tur\u0113t \u2014 s\u0113d\u0113si. Es esmu mazs cilv\u0113ks, es izpildu komandas. T\u0101 ar\u012b ir. Aps\u016bdz\u012bba toreiz at\u0161\u0137\u012br\u0101s no tagad\u0113j\u0101s.<\/p>

      Bet tolaik sakrita daudzas lietas. Biju aizs\u016bt\u012bjis “R\u012bgas Balsij” inform\u0101ciju, ka \u0123ener\u0101lprokurors Skrasti\u0146\u0161 ir pederasts. Skrasti\u0146am no-str\u0101d\u0101ja amb\u012bcijas. K\u0101 cit\u0101di, ja pres\u0113 nosauc par pederastu. Telev\u012bzijas zi\u0146\u0101s par\u0101d\u012bja, ka Stendzenieks pazi\u0146ojis, ka Skrasti\u0146\u0161 pederasts. Bet vi\u0146\u0161 nevar neko izdar\u012bt. Vi\u0146am no\u0161auties, bet Stendzenieks j\u0101atst\u0101j par jebkuru cenu. T\u0101da bija t\u0101 komanda. Bet visi tie dokumenti, kas no manis n\u0101ca\u2026 Vi\u0146\u0161 bija devis komandu, ka tie uzreiz non\u0101k uz vi\u0146a galda. Vi\u0146\u0161 bija skraid\u012bjis pa prokurat\u016bru un trakojis, ka Stendzenieks ir \u0101rpr\u0101t\u012bgs: k\u0101 vi\u0146\u0161 uzdro\u0161in\u0101s kaut ko t\u0101du zi\u0146ot, k\u0101p\u0113c vi\u0146\u0161 nes\u0113\u017e mier\u012bgi. Doma visiem bija t\u0101da: ielikt iek\u0161\u0101, ieg\u016bt vajadz\u012bgo inform\u0101ciju, paspaid\u012bt ventspilniekus, dab\u016bt nost no politisk\u0101s ar\u0113nas, dab\u016bt manus \u012bpa\u0161umus. Bet t\u0101l\u0101k \u2014 ko dar\u012btu Stendzenieks? Noliektu galvu, atvainotos, dar\u012btu visu, lai tikai tiktu \u0101r\u0101. Liel\u0101k\u0101 da\u013ca t\u0101 ar\u012b dara. Bet man ir princips. Es varu nos\u0113d\u0113t, cik vajag. Es varu ar\u012b vienoties. T\u0101 jau bija 1998. gad\u0101, kad piekritu neatkl\u0101t nek\u0101dus “kompromatus”. Es teicu: nav jaut\u0101jumu, viss k\u0101rt\u012bb\u0101. Es eju politik\u0101. J\u016bs ejat ar saviem lozungiem, es ar saviem, kur\u0161 uzvar, tas uzvar. Es sol\u012bju nevienu neaiztikt. Ar \u0160\u0137\u0113li, ar Ulmani\u2026 ar visiem bija vieno\u0161an\u0101s. Ar “Latvijas ce\u013cu”, Tautas partiju\u2026 neizpild\u012bja\u2026 nu, ko tad vi\u0146i grib? Pa\u0161i vain\u012bgi.<\/p>

      Toreiz visi pamat\u012bgi nobij\u0101s. Situ\u0101cij\u0101, kad cilv\u0113ks atsak\u0101s vienk\u0101r\u0161i izlaup\u012bt valsti. Man bija citi privatiz\u0101cijas varianti. Tagad privatiz\u0101cijas b\u016bt\u012bba ir atdot uz\u0146\u0113mumus par puscenu \u0101rzemniekiem.<\/p>

      Un Indriksons, ko vi\u0146\u0161 tagad dara? Vi\u0146a b\u016bt\u012bba ir t\u0101, ka vi\u0146\u0161 nav kop\u0101 ar Latvijas valsti, nav kop\u0101 ar politisk\u0101m partij\u0101m. Vai vi\u0146\u0161 ir kaut ko uzb\u016bv\u0113jis, maks\u0101jis nodok\u013cus? Vi\u0146\u0161 ar “Varner” ir iek\u0161\u0101 visos centros, univers\u0101lveikal\u0101, viesn\u012bc\u0101 “Latvija”, viesn\u012bc\u0101 “R\u012bga”, Centr\u0101laj\u0101 stacij\u0101, “Alf\u0101”, “Dol\u0113”. Vi\u0146\u0161 ir re\u0101lais \u012bpa\u0161nieks, lai gan viss noform\u0113ts uz “of\u0161oriem” un da\u017e\u0101d\u0101m firm\u0101m. K\u0101dus nodok\u013cus tad vi\u0146i maks\u0101? Pievienot\u0101s v\u0113rt\u012bbas nodokli? To maks\u0101 dar\u012bjuma p\u0113d\u0113jais veic\u0113js, proti, pirc\u0113js. Vi\u0146i vienk\u0101r\u0161i iekas\u0113. Vai pe\u013c\u0146as nodokli k\u0101ds uz\u0146\u0113mums ir maks\u0101jis? Vi\u0146iem ta\u010du nav pe\u013c\u0146as, vi\u0146i izp\u0101rdod to, kas ir Latvij\u0101. Tas viss ir nok\u0101rtots ar privatiz\u0101cijas sertifik\u0101tiem, politi\u0137i tiek ieinteres\u0113ti.<\/p>

      Jurijs Simo\u0146enko, kas pie vi\u0146a str\u0101d\u0101, cilv\u0113ks, kas saprot biznesa j\u0113gu, ar sav\u0101m sp\u0113j\u0101m nodro\u0161ina biznesu. Bija konkr\u0113ta runa. Vi\u0146\u0161 saka: Gun\u010da, nelien biznes\u0101, bet nodro\u0161ini politisko aizmuguri. Jo viss, ko vi\u0146\u0161 uzs\u0101cis, ir nobrucis. Teiksim, vi\u0146\u0161 s\u0101k “\u0161telles” ar cukuru. Sav\u0101 laik\u0101 vi\u0146\u0161 grib\u0113ja pirkt ku\u0123us ar cukuru. T\u0101 ir mahin\u0101cija. Tad sarkanie dz\u012bvsudrabi… Vi\u0146\u0161 saka: Armand, tas iet. N\u0113, es saku, neiet, t\u0101 ir kr\u0101p\u0161ana. Vi\u0146\u0161 saka: es tev pier\u0101d\u012b\u0161u. Vi\u0146\u0161 \u0161\u0101d\u0101s oper\u0101cij\u0101s not\u0113r\u0113ja vair\u0101kus miljonus, iekrita, tikai gribot pier\u0101d\u012bt, ka vi\u0146\u0161 var. T\u0101p\u0113c Simo\u0146enko vi\u0146am saka: str\u0101d\u0101 ar politi\u0137iem, p\u0113rc vi\u0146us, maks\u0101 vi\u0146iem, nodro\u0161ini valsts pas\u016bt\u012bjumus. T\u0101 ir valsts kabata, ar ko vi\u0146i str\u0101d\u0101.<\/p>

      Atn\u0101k pie manis, piem\u0113ram, SAB inspektors. Vi\u0146\u0161 jaut\u0101: Armand, ko tu gribi? K\u0101p\u0113c sniedz vis\u0101dus iesniegumus? Es saku: tur pa\u0146\u0113ma tik un tik. Vi\u0146\u0161: kaut vai miljonu, kas tas ir? Es saku: tr\u012bs pa\u0146\u0113ma. Vi\u0146\u0161: tas ir s\u012bkums. Tad es saku: ko j\u016bs gribat no manis, k\u0101p\u0113c tad es s\u0113\u017eu? Vi\u0146\u0161 saka: tev ir j\u0101s\u0113\u017e.<\/p>

      Ar\u012b par citiem jaut\u0101jumiem. Es sav\u0101 laik\u0101 uzrakst\u012bju iesniegumu R\u012bgas apgabaltiesai, ka gribu sniegt liec\u012bbu Ainara Eisaka krimin\u0101lliet\u0101 par augstas valsts amatpersonas dal\u012bbu t\u0101 saucamaj\u0101 pedofilijas skand\u0101l\u0101. Tad es atrados Stabu ielas izolator\u0101, Pumpurs sa\u0146\u0113ma iesniegumu, bet nol\u0113ma nekur to nes\u016bt\u012bt. L\u012bdz tiesai bija tr\u012bs vai \u010detras ned\u0113\u013cas. Tik ilgi manu iesniegumu notur\u0113ja, kam\u0113r tiesa beidz\u0101s.<\/p>

      \u2014 Ko j\u016bs grib\u0113j\u0101t st\u0101st\u012bt?<\/p>

      \u2014 \u0160aj\u0101 gad\u012bjum\u0101 tas nav b\u016btiski. Bet es past\u0101vu uz savu taisn\u012bbu. Esmu pied\u0101v\u0101jis varas iest\u0101d\u0113m \u017eurn\u0101listu kl\u0101tb\u016btn\u0113 iziet melu detektora testu, atbild\u0113t uz jebkuru jaut\u0101jumu. Bet ar vienu nosac\u012bjumu: man\u0101 un \u017eurn\u0101listu kl\u0101tb\u016btn\u0113 uz maniem jaut\u0101jumiem atbild\u0113s Kehris, Pante\u013c\u0113jevs, Birkavs, \u0160\u0137\u0113le, Bataraga, Indriksons. Kad pret Birkavu, Segli\u0146u un \u0160\u0137\u0113li bija ierosin\u0101ta krimin\u0101llieta par pedofiliju, k\u0101p\u0113c vi\u0146iem uzreiz, t\u0101d\u0101 steig\u0101 bija j\u0101iziet p\u0101rbaude ar melu detektoru? K\u0101p\u0113c Gorbunovs ir sarkans k\u0101 v\u0113zis, kad \u017eurn\u0101listi vi\u0146am prasa\u2026Visiem ir skaidrs. Neviens jau par to nerun\u0101, pam\u0113\u0123iniet \u0161obr\u012bd iest\u0101st\u012bt Latvijas sievi\u0146\u0101m vienu otru lietu.<\/p>

      \u2014 K\u0101du lietu?<\/p>

      \u2014 To pa\u0161u. Ja \u0100damsons b\u016btu nosaucis \u0161o cilv\u0113ku, vi\u0146am netic\u0113tu, izskr\u0101p\u0113tu acis, iesp\u013cautu taj\u0101s, pateiktu, ka apmelo cilv\u0113ku. Bet fakts ir fakts. Nav jau vienu otru lietu tik gr\u016bti pier\u0101d\u012bt. K\u0101 jau teicu, ir interesanti dz\u012bvok\u013ci… ir vis\u0101di varianti, ne tikai ekonomiskais. Gun\u010diks jau zina, k\u0101 kontrol\u0113t cilv\u0113kus.<\/p>

      Indriksonam firm\u0101 ir Agris Lati\u0161s. Indriksons ir uztais\u012bjis variantus, ka Lati\u0161s vi\u0146am par\u0101d\u0101 milz\u012bgas summas, citiem “Skonto” darbiniekiem tiek st\u0101st\u012bts, ka Agris ir absol\u016bts idiots, neko nesaprot biznes\u0101, visu sagrauj, zaud\u0113jumi ir Agra d\u0113\u013c. Var jau str\u012bd\u0113ties, k\u0101ds vi\u0146\u0161 ir, bet jaut\u0101jums ir cits. S\u0101ksim ar to, ka s\u0101kotn\u0113ji “Skonto” firm\u0101 bija vair\u0101ki desmiti cilv\u0113ku. Tad par\u0101d\u012bj\u0101s 25, p\u0113c tam samazin\u0101j\u0101s l\u012bdz 14, v\u0113l\u0101k l\u012bdz septi\u0146iem. Indriksons ir visus atspiedis atpaka\u013c, Simo\u0146enko vi\u0146\u0161 nesp\u0113ja atspiest. Bet Lati\u0161s bija pa\u0146\u0113mis lielu kred\u012btu Pareksa bank\u0101, parakst\u012bj\u0101s k\u0101 “Skonto” direktors. Tad vis\u0101das situ\u0101cijas, kred\u012btu zaud\u0113ja, nesp\u0113ja atmaks\u0101t. Indriksons izvirza jaut\u0101jumu, ka Lati\u0161s ir atbild\u012bgs priv\u0101ti, ka firma to nesegs, firma te “\u0146ipri\u010dom”, vi\u0146\u0161 pats pa\u0146\u0113mis un izt\u0113r\u0113jis. Bet vi\u0146am firm\u0101 akcijas. Indriksons izvirza nosac\u012bjumu: tev tas ir j\u0101atdod man, j\u0101ie\u0137\u012bl\u0101, tev ir par\u0101ds. Un visu at\u0146\u0113ma.<\/p>

      Kad Indriksons ir kabinet\u0101, vi\u0146\u0161 zvana uz Pareksa banku \u2014 pasakiet Karginam: tas kred\u012bts, kas Agrim ir\u2026 nav probl\u0113mu to jebkur\u0101 laik\u0101 samaks\u0101t, bet man vajag “iz\u010dakar\u0113t” Agri, un t\u0101p\u0113c, ka man vajag t\u0101 izdar\u012bt, lai Pareksa banka “uzbrauc” vi\u0146am par procentiem un piespie\u017e pie sienas. Ja jums vajag naudu, nav probl\u0113mu, t\u016bl\u012bt do\u0161u komandu un naudu aizved\u012bs, tikai parakst\u012bsiet pap\u012bru, ka naudu esat sa\u0146\u0113mu\u0161i, bet tas kred\u012bts lai skait\u0101s, “brauciet” vi\u0146am virs\u016b.<\/p>

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      Armands Stendzenieks. No miljoniem l\u012bdz cietumam Edmunds Im\u0161a, Galvenais redaktors – Vakara Av\u012bze Vakara\u00a0Zi\u0146as Pirm\u0101 Da\u013ca Intervija ar Armandu Stendzenieku notiek Liep\u0101jas cietuma kamer\u0101. Pils\u0113t\u0101, kur\u0101 piedzimst v\u0113j\u0161, cietums ir mazs un t\u012brs. Pagalm\u0101 aug skuju koki, gaite\u0146i gandr\u012bz vai priec\u0113 ar t\u012br\u012bbu. Pats Stendzenieks par godu intervijai ir saposies k\u0101 uz Operu \u2014 lab\u0101 uzvalk\u0101, ar kaklasaiti, t\u012bri sk\u016bts \u2014 un nemaz neatg\u0101dina klasisku cietumnieku, par kuriem iedom\u0101joties pr\u0101t\u0101 n\u0101k rokudzel\u017ei un sv\u012btrainas dr\u0113bes. Vi\u0146\u0161 pat pied\u0101v\u0101 \u0161\u0137\u012bsto\u0161o kafiju un vafe\u013cu torti. St\u0101stot mazliet nervoz\u0113. Ieslodz\u012bjum\u0101 bez noties\u0101jo\u0161a tiesas sprieduma vi\u0146\u0161 pavad\u012bjis jau piecus gadus. \u2014 K\u0101d\u0113\u013c j\u016bs atrodaties cietum\u0101? \u2014 Es uzskatu, ka mana lieta ir politiski safabric\u0113ta un pamats ir viens \u2014 da\u017eiem cilv\u0113kiem Latvij\u0101 bija svar\u012bgi p\u0101r\u0146emt manu \u012bpa\u0161umu, p\u0101r\u0146emt lielas naudas summas, kas pieder\u0113ja man, un neatdot. \u2014 J\u016bsu \u012bpa\u0161umus ir p\u0101r\u0146\u0113mu\u0161i citi cilv\u0113ki? \u2014 J\u0101, viss, kas man Latvij\u0101 ir pieder\u0113jis, ir likvid\u0113ts. Viss ir nojaukts. 1998. gad\u0101, kad mani “izlaida” no cietuma, kad nomain\u012bja dro\u0161\u012bbas l\u012bdzekli, es piln\u012bb\u0101 iev\u0113roju policijas uzraudz\u012bbu. Ne reizi no manas puses nebija nek\u0101du probl\u0113mu, bet taj\u0101 pa\u0161\u0101 laik\u0101 no \u0122ener\u0101lprokurat\u016bras zvan\u012bja un m\u0113\u0123in\u0101ja uztais\u012bt provok\u0101ciju par to, ka neesmu ieradies. Man bija sast\u0101d\u012bts saraksts, kad man j\u0101ierodas policij\u0101. Parasti dro\u0161\u012bbas l\u012bdzekli nemaina. Tad krimin\u0101llietu no\u0146\u0113ma (prokuroram Aleksandram) Stepanovam un nodeva t\u0101l\u0101k (Jurim) P\u0113dam. P\u0113da nomain\u012bja dro\u0161\u012bbas l\u012bdzekli atpaka\u013c, un vi\u0146\u0161 ar mani run\u0101ja, kad 18. decembr\u012b izsauca uz \u0122ener\u0101lprokurat\u016bru. Pied\u0101v\u0101jums bija t\u0101ds \u2014 vai nu es snieg\u0161u aps\u016bdzo\u0161as liec\u012bbas pret Ventspils grup\u0113jumu, vai ar\u012b es t\u016bl\u012bt ie\u0161u s\u0113d\u0113t, atk\u0101rtoti tiks main\u012bts dro\u0161\u012bbas l\u012bdzeklis. “Tu b\u016bsi atpaka\u013c cietum\u0101,” vi\u0146\u0161 teica. Es teicu, ka neredzu nek\u0101du pamatu, k\u0101p\u0113c man var\u0113tu main\u012bt dro\u0161\u012bbas l\u012bdzekli. Man iebilda, ka es maldos. “Prokurat\u016bra daudz ko var izdar\u012bt, tev tikai \u0161\u0137iet, ka neko nevar izdar\u012bt.” Re\u0101li jau pat apsardze bija nolikta kabinet\u0101. \u2014 Vai j\u016bs varat atkl\u0101t, kuri bija tie cilv\u0113ki, kas v\u0113l\u0113j\u0101s p\u0101r\u0146emt j\u016bsu mantu? \u2014 J\u0101, protams. 1998. gad\u0101 bija vair\u0101kas vieno\u0161an\u0101s. Mani atbr\u012bvoja un nomain\u012bja dro\u0161\u012bbas l\u012bdzekli, man uzdeva jaut\u0101jumu, vai es piedal\u012b\u0161os politik\u0101? Es teicu, ka noteikti piedal\u012b\u0161os, un man ar (Gunta) Indriksona starpniec\u012bbu tika uzdots jaut\u0101jums, vai neesmu ar mieru sa\u0146emt finansi\u0101lu kompens\u0101ciju un pazust no Latvijas. Es atbild\u0113ju, ka neesmu ar mieru aizbrauk un noteikti gribu piedal\u012bties politiskaj\u0101 darb\u012bb\u0101. Ja netiek trauc\u0113ta mana piedal\u012b\u0161an\u0101s politiskaj\u0101 c\u012b\u0146\u0101, es ar\u012b atsakos izmantot jebk\u0101dus kompromit\u0113jo\u0161us materi\u0101lus, un tad b\u016btu vienk\u0101r\u0161a god\u012bga politisk\u0101 c\u012b\u0146a. Toreiz netic\u0113ju, ka l\u012bdz rudenim (maij\u0101 nomain\u012bja dro\u0161\u012bbas l\u012bdzekli) sp\u0113\u0161u nodibin\u0101t politisko partiju (Latvijas Tautas varas partiju jeb LTVP. \u2014 E. I.). Praktiski es to sp\u0113ju, biju jau noorganiz\u0113jis, un tad, kad biju pa\u0146\u0113mis telev\u012bzij\u0101 lab\u0101kos rekl\u0101mas laikus, ac\u012bmredzot k\u0101ds saprata, ka Stendzenieks ir p\u0101r\u0101k b\u012bstams un mani j\u0101liek atpaka\u013c cietum\u0101. (LTVP bija nopirkusi p\u0113d\u0113jo “rull\u012bti” rekl\u0101mas blok\u0101 pirms raid\u012bjuma “Panor\u0101ma” partijas politisk\u0101s a\u0123it\u0101cijas rekl\u0101mai, kuru saska\u0146\u0101 ar l\u012bgumu p\u0101rraid\u012btu 83 dienas \u2014 no13. j\u016blija l\u012bdz oktobrim, visas septi\u0146as dienas ned\u0113\u013c\u0101.) \u2014 Jums ir versija, kas pie\u0146\u0113ma \u0161o l\u0113mumu? \u2014 Protams, ka man ir versijas. Bet jaut\u0101jums ir cits \u2014 k\u0101d\u0101 veid\u0101 tika risin\u0101ts jaut\u0101jums par partijas dibin\u0101\u0161anu. Bija god\u012bgi norun\u0101ts, ka es norm\u0101li piedal\u012b\u0161os c\u012b\u0146\u0101 un nevienu “neaizskar\u0161u”. Ta\u010du taj\u0101 laik\u0101, kad tieslietu ministrs bija (TB\/LNNK biedrs Dzintars) Rasna\u010ds, vi\u0146\u0161 run\u0101ja par manas partijas miru\u0161aj\u0101m dv\u0113sel\u0113m. (P\u0101rbaud\u0113, sal\u012bdzinot ar Iedz\u012bvot\u0101ju re\u0123istra zi\u0146\u0101m, tika konstat\u0113ts, ka partijas dibin\u0101t\u0101ju vid\u016b ir divas miru\u0161as personas. \u2014 E. I.) V\u0113l taj\u0101 pa\u0161\u0101 laik\u0101 man ar (Normundu) Laku\u010du no “t\u0113vzemie\u0161iem” tika nodots, ka man j\u0101noliek 50 t\u016bksto\u0161i dol\u0101ru, lai visp\u0101r var\u0113tu partiju re\u0123istr\u0113t. Laku\u010ds run\u0101ja partijas v\u0101rd\u0101, tik\u0101mies person\u012bgi. M\u0113s run\u0101j\u0101m, ka mani neviens netrauc\u0113s politiskaj\u0101 c\u012b\u0146\u0101 un es ar\u012b nevienu netrauc\u0113\u0161u. Lai sak\u0101rtotu jaut\u0101jumus, m\u0113s tik\u0101mies M\u0113ness un C\u0113su ielas krustojum\u0101. Vi\u0146\u0161 teica, ka vajag no manis tos 50 t\u016bksto\u0161us un visi partiju jaut\u0101jumi b\u016bs nok\u0101rtoti, un ar\u012b Rasna\u010ds vairs neuzst\u0101sies. Vi\u0146\u0161 (Laku\u010ds) it k\u0101 tur neko nevarot kontrol\u0113t, jo Rasna\u010ds pats it k\u0101 pie\u0146\u0113mis l\u0113mumus. Es teicu: 50 \u2014 tas ir par traku, bet konkr\u0113t\u0101k jau b\u016bs 30 t\u016bksto\u0161i. N\u0101kamaj\u0101 vakar\u0101 man nauda bija j\u0101atnes. Es atnesu naudu, vi\u0146\u0161 teica, lai nolieku. Pirmaj\u0101 reiz\u0113 vi\u0146\u0161 ierad\u0101s mazliet “ie\u0161vilpis” un run\u0101ja ma\u0161\u012bn\u0101, bet otraj\u0101 reiz\u0113 vi\u0146\u0161 atteic\u0101s run\u0101t man\u0101 ma\u0161\u012bn\u0101. Izk\u0101p\u0101m \u0101r\u0101, un vi\u0146\u0161 teica: noliec naudu uz s\u0113dek\u013ca (sav\u0101 ma\u0161\u012bn\u0101).Vi\u0146\u0161 atbrauca ar savu ma\u0161\u012bnu, es \u2014 ar savu (\u012br\u0113tu). Izk\u0101p\u0101m \u0101r\u0101 un run\u0101j\u0101m. Es: “K\u0101 b\u016bs ar dokumentu re\u0123istr\u0101ciju?” Vi\u0146\u0161: “Dar\u012bsim t\u0101! Dokumentus tu sa\u0146emsi p\u0113d\u0113j\u0101 dien\u0101 pirms partiju sarakstu iesnieg\u0161anas v\u0113l\u0113\u0161an\u0101m V\u0113l\u0113\u0161anu komisijai.” Es: “Normund, t\u0101 tas neiet. T\u0101d\u0101 gad\u012bjum\u0101 j\u016bs dro\u0161i vien esat nol\u0113mu\u0161i vai nu p\u0113d\u0113j\u0101 dien\u0101 man atdot tos 30 t\u016bksto\u0161us, vai ar\u012b, slikt\u0101k\u0101 gad\u012bjum\u0101, man pateikt, ka nekas nesan\u0101ca. Ja t\u0101, es naudu neatst\u0101ju.” Neko nesamaks\u0101jis, g\u0101ju citu ce\u013cu, iesniedzu otrreiz dokumentus, bet tos man atkal “nogrieza”. \u2014 Tad jau t\u0101 lo\u0123ika ir t\u0101da, ka Rasna\u010ds un vi\u0146a partijas biedrs aizliedza jums dibin\u0101t partiju, jo nesamaks\u0101j\u0101t? \u2014 J\u0101, jo vi\u0146\u0161 jau agr\u0101k teica presei, ka j\u0101ierosina krimin\u0101llieta. Parakstus par partijas dibin\u0101\u0161anu s\u0101ka v\u0101kt jau pusgadu iepriek\u0161. Daugavpil\u012b bija parakst\u012bju\u0161ies veci cilv\u0113ki, kuri jau pa to laiku bija miru\u0161i. Prokurat\u016bra to visu bija p\u0101rbaud\u012bjusi, un nebija t\u0101, ka b\u016btu ierakst\u012bts, kur\u0161 ir jau miris. Ta\u010du presei pazi\u0146oja, ka Stendzenieks kr\u0101pjas un pin iek\u0161\u0101 miru\u0161as dv\u0113seles. Un visp\u0101r \u2014 k\u0101p\u0113c t\u0101du partiju v\u0113l ar vi\u0146u dibin\u0101t. Tom\u0113r \u012bsi pirms atk\u0101rtot\u0101 aresta man bija telefonsaruna ar M\u0101ri Gr\u012bnblatu. Es vi\u0146am piezvan\u012bju un teicu, ka god\u012bgi iev\u0113roju noteikumus un nek\u0101dus kompromit\u0113jo\u0161us materi\u0101lus neizplatu. Un vaic\u0101ju, k\u0101p\u0113c vi\u0146i man trauc\u0113 iet politisk\u0101 c\u012b\u0146\u0101. Vi\u0146\u0161 man atbild\u0113ja: “Tu jau zini, kas ir partijas kontaktpersona, run\u0101 ar Laku\u010du.” M\u0113s s\u0101k\u0101m konflikt\u0113t, nolam\u0101jos. Tad vi\u0146\u0161 teica: “Stendzeniek, tu p\u0101r\u0101k daudz iedom\u0101jies. Tev nek\u0101das varas nav, un m\u0113s tevi ieb\u0101z\u012bsim atpaka\u013c tur, kur tu biji.” Manupr\u0101t, nobijusies bija ar\u012b Tautas parti-ja \u2014 man bija inform\u0101cija, ka \u0160\u0137\u0113le esot teicis: “Stendzenieku nek\u0101d\u0101 gad\u012bjum\u0101 nevar ielaist parlament\u0101.” Tom\u0113r saruna man ir bijusi ar “t\u0113vzemie\u0161iem”. T\u0101 k\u0101 es ar Gr\u012bnblatu k\u0101rt\u012bgi sastr\u012bd\u0113jos, vi\u0146\u0161 saprata, ka gad\u012bjum\u0101, ja iek\u013c\u016b\u0161u parlament\u0101, ar mani b\u016bs j\u0101r\u0113\u0137in\u0101s. Savu r\u012bc\u012bbu vi\u0146\u0161 motiv\u0113ja ar to, ka es 1995. gad\u0101 (Alberta Kaula Vien\u012bbas) partijai ieguvu asto\u0146as vietas, pa\u0146\u0113mu lab\u0101kos rekl\u0101mas laikus telev\u012bzij\u0101 un ka<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":2477,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"elementor_canvas","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[27],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-2476","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-intervijas"],"yoast_head":"\nArmands Stendzenieks. No miljoniem l\u012bdz cietumam - Edmunds Im\u0161a<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/edmundsimsa.com\/?p=2476\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"Armands Stendzenieks. No miljoniem l\u012bdz cietumam - Edmunds Im\u0161a\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"Armands Stendzenieks. No miljoniem l\u012bdz cietumam Edmunds Im\u0161a, Galvenais redaktors – Vakara Av\u012bze Vakara\u00a0Zi\u0146as Pirm\u0101 Da\u013ca Intervija ar Armandu Stendzenieku notiek Liep\u0101jas cietuma kamer\u0101. Pils\u0113t\u0101, kur\u0101 piedzimst v\u0113j\u0161, cietums ir mazs un t\u012brs. Pagalm\u0101 aug skuju koki, gaite\u0146i gandr\u012bz vai priec\u0113 ar t\u012br\u012bbu. Pats Stendzenieks par godu intervijai ir saposies k\u0101 uz Operu \u2014 lab\u0101 uzvalk\u0101, ar kaklasaiti, t\u012bri sk\u016bts \u2014 un nemaz neatg\u0101dina klasisku cietumnieku, par kuriem iedom\u0101joties pr\u0101t\u0101 n\u0101k rokudzel\u017ei un sv\u012btrainas dr\u0113bes. Vi\u0146\u0161 pat pied\u0101v\u0101 \u0161\u0137\u012bsto\u0161o kafiju un vafe\u013cu torti. St\u0101stot mazliet nervoz\u0113. Ieslodz\u012bjum\u0101 bez noties\u0101jo\u0161a tiesas sprieduma vi\u0146\u0161 pavad\u012bjis jau piecus gadus. \u2014 K\u0101d\u0113\u013c j\u016bs atrodaties cietum\u0101? \u2014 Es uzskatu, ka mana lieta ir politiski safabric\u0113ta un pamats ir viens \u2014 da\u017eiem cilv\u0113kiem Latvij\u0101 bija svar\u012bgi p\u0101r\u0146emt manu \u012bpa\u0161umu, p\u0101r\u0146emt lielas naudas summas, kas pieder\u0113ja man, un neatdot. \u2014 J\u016bsu \u012bpa\u0161umus ir p\u0101r\u0146\u0113mu\u0161i citi cilv\u0113ki? \u2014 J\u0101, viss, kas man Latvij\u0101 ir pieder\u0113jis, ir likvid\u0113ts. Viss ir nojaukts. 1998. gad\u0101, kad mani “izlaida” no cietuma, kad nomain\u012bja dro\u0161\u012bbas l\u012bdzekli, es piln\u012bb\u0101 iev\u0113roju policijas uzraudz\u012bbu. Ne reizi no manas puses nebija nek\u0101du probl\u0113mu, bet taj\u0101 pa\u0161\u0101 laik\u0101 no \u0122ener\u0101lprokurat\u016bras zvan\u012bja un m\u0113\u0123in\u0101ja uztais\u012bt provok\u0101ciju par to, ka neesmu ieradies. Man bija sast\u0101d\u012bts saraksts, kad man j\u0101ierodas policij\u0101. Parasti dro\u0161\u012bbas l\u012bdzekli nemaina. Tad krimin\u0101llietu no\u0146\u0113ma (prokuroram Aleksandram) Stepanovam un nodeva t\u0101l\u0101k (Jurim) P\u0113dam. P\u0113da nomain\u012bja dro\u0161\u012bbas l\u012bdzekli atpaka\u013c, un vi\u0146\u0161 ar mani run\u0101ja, kad 18. decembr\u012b izsauca uz \u0122ener\u0101lprokurat\u016bru. Pied\u0101v\u0101jums bija t\u0101ds \u2014 vai nu es snieg\u0161u aps\u016bdzo\u0161as liec\u012bbas pret Ventspils grup\u0113jumu, vai ar\u012b es t\u016bl\u012bt ie\u0161u s\u0113d\u0113t, atk\u0101rtoti tiks main\u012bts dro\u0161\u012bbas l\u012bdzeklis. “Tu b\u016bsi atpaka\u013c cietum\u0101,” vi\u0146\u0161 teica. Es teicu, ka neredzu nek\u0101du pamatu, k\u0101p\u0113c man var\u0113tu main\u012bt dro\u0161\u012bbas l\u012bdzekli. Man iebilda, ka es maldos. “Prokurat\u016bra daudz ko var izdar\u012bt, tev tikai \u0161\u0137iet, ka neko nevar izdar\u012bt.” Re\u0101li jau pat apsardze bija nolikta kabinet\u0101. \u2014 Vai j\u016bs varat atkl\u0101t, kuri bija tie cilv\u0113ki, kas v\u0113l\u0113j\u0101s p\u0101r\u0146emt j\u016bsu mantu? \u2014 J\u0101, protams. 1998. gad\u0101 bija vair\u0101kas vieno\u0161an\u0101s. Mani atbr\u012bvoja un nomain\u012bja dro\u0161\u012bbas l\u012bdzekli, man uzdeva jaut\u0101jumu, vai es piedal\u012b\u0161os politik\u0101? Es teicu, ka noteikti piedal\u012b\u0161os, un man ar (Gunta) Indriksona starpniec\u012bbu tika uzdots jaut\u0101jums, vai neesmu ar mieru sa\u0146emt finansi\u0101lu kompens\u0101ciju un pazust no Latvijas. Es atbild\u0113ju, ka neesmu ar mieru aizbrauk un noteikti gribu piedal\u012bties politiskaj\u0101 darb\u012bb\u0101. Ja netiek trauc\u0113ta mana piedal\u012b\u0161an\u0101s politiskaj\u0101 c\u012b\u0146\u0101, es ar\u012b atsakos izmantot jebk\u0101dus kompromit\u0113jo\u0161us materi\u0101lus, un tad b\u016btu vienk\u0101r\u0161a god\u012bga politisk\u0101 c\u012b\u0146a. Toreiz netic\u0113ju, ka l\u012bdz rudenim (maij\u0101 nomain\u012bja dro\u0161\u012bbas l\u012bdzekli) sp\u0113\u0161u nodibin\u0101t politisko partiju (Latvijas Tautas varas partiju jeb LTVP. \u2014 E. I.). Praktiski es to sp\u0113ju, biju jau noorganiz\u0113jis, un tad, kad biju pa\u0146\u0113mis telev\u012bzij\u0101 lab\u0101kos rekl\u0101mas laikus, ac\u012bmredzot k\u0101ds saprata, ka Stendzenieks ir p\u0101r\u0101k b\u012bstams un mani j\u0101liek atpaka\u013c cietum\u0101. (LTVP bija nopirkusi p\u0113d\u0113jo “rull\u012bti” rekl\u0101mas blok\u0101 pirms raid\u012bjuma “Panor\u0101ma” partijas politisk\u0101s a\u0123it\u0101cijas rekl\u0101mai, kuru saska\u0146\u0101 ar l\u012bgumu p\u0101rraid\u012btu 83 dienas \u2014 no13. j\u016blija l\u012bdz oktobrim, visas septi\u0146as dienas ned\u0113\u013c\u0101.) \u2014 Jums ir versija, kas pie\u0146\u0113ma \u0161o l\u0113mumu? \u2014 Protams, ka man ir versijas. Bet jaut\u0101jums ir cits \u2014 k\u0101d\u0101 veid\u0101 tika risin\u0101ts jaut\u0101jums par partijas dibin\u0101\u0161anu. Bija god\u012bgi norun\u0101ts, ka es norm\u0101li piedal\u012b\u0161os c\u012b\u0146\u0101 un nevienu “neaizskar\u0161u”. Ta\u010du taj\u0101 laik\u0101, kad tieslietu ministrs bija (TB\/LNNK biedrs Dzintars) Rasna\u010ds, vi\u0146\u0161 run\u0101ja par manas partijas miru\u0161aj\u0101m dv\u0113sel\u0113m. (P\u0101rbaud\u0113, sal\u012bdzinot ar Iedz\u012bvot\u0101ju re\u0123istra zi\u0146\u0101m, tika konstat\u0113ts, ka partijas dibin\u0101t\u0101ju vid\u016b ir divas miru\u0161as personas. \u2014 E. I.) V\u0113l taj\u0101 pa\u0161\u0101 laik\u0101 man ar (Normundu) Laku\u010du no “t\u0113vzemie\u0161iem” tika nodots, ka man j\u0101noliek 50 t\u016bksto\u0161i dol\u0101ru, lai visp\u0101r var\u0113tu partiju re\u0123istr\u0113t. Laku\u010ds run\u0101ja partijas v\u0101rd\u0101, tik\u0101mies person\u012bgi. M\u0113s run\u0101j\u0101m, ka mani neviens netrauc\u0113s politiskaj\u0101 c\u012b\u0146\u0101 un es ar\u012b nevienu netrauc\u0113\u0161u. Lai sak\u0101rtotu jaut\u0101jumus, m\u0113s tik\u0101mies M\u0113ness un C\u0113su ielas krustojum\u0101. Vi\u0146\u0161 teica, ka vajag no manis tos 50 t\u016bksto\u0161us un visi partiju jaut\u0101jumi b\u016bs nok\u0101rtoti, un ar\u012b Rasna\u010ds vairs neuzst\u0101sies. Vi\u0146\u0161 (Laku\u010ds) it k\u0101 tur neko nevarot kontrol\u0113t, jo Rasna\u010ds pats it k\u0101 pie\u0146\u0113mis l\u0113mumus. Es teicu: 50 \u2014 tas ir par traku, bet konkr\u0113t\u0101k jau b\u016bs 30 t\u016bksto\u0161i. N\u0101kamaj\u0101 vakar\u0101 man nauda bija j\u0101atnes. Es atnesu naudu, vi\u0146\u0161 teica, lai nolieku. Pirmaj\u0101 reiz\u0113 vi\u0146\u0161 ierad\u0101s mazliet “ie\u0161vilpis” un run\u0101ja ma\u0161\u012bn\u0101, bet otraj\u0101 reiz\u0113 vi\u0146\u0161 atteic\u0101s run\u0101t man\u0101 ma\u0161\u012bn\u0101. Izk\u0101p\u0101m \u0101r\u0101, un vi\u0146\u0161 teica: noliec naudu uz s\u0113dek\u013ca (sav\u0101 ma\u0161\u012bn\u0101).Vi\u0146\u0161 atbrauca ar savu ma\u0161\u012bnu, es \u2014 ar savu (\u012br\u0113tu). Izk\u0101p\u0101m \u0101r\u0101 un run\u0101j\u0101m. Es: “K\u0101 b\u016bs ar dokumentu re\u0123istr\u0101ciju?” Vi\u0146\u0161: “Dar\u012bsim t\u0101! Dokumentus tu sa\u0146emsi p\u0113d\u0113j\u0101 dien\u0101 pirms partiju sarakstu iesnieg\u0161anas v\u0113l\u0113\u0161an\u0101m V\u0113l\u0113\u0161anu komisijai.” Es: “Normund, t\u0101 tas neiet. T\u0101d\u0101 gad\u012bjum\u0101 j\u016bs dro\u0161i vien esat nol\u0113mu\u0161i vai nu p\u0113d\u0113j\u0101 dien\u0101 man atdot tos 30 t\u016bksto\u0161us, vai ar\u012b, slikt\u0101k\u0101 gad\u012bjum\u0101, man pateikt, ka nekas nesan\u0101ca. Ja t\u0101, es naudu neatst\u0101ju.” Neko nesamaks\u0101jis, g\u0101ju citu ce\u013cu, iesniedzu otrreiz dokumentus, bet tos man atkal “nogrieza”. \u2014 Tad jau t\u0101 lo\u0123ika ir t\u0101da, ka Rasna\u010ds un vi\u0146a partijas biedrs aizliedza jums dibin\u0101t partiju, jo nesamaks\u0101j\u0101t? \u2014 J\u0101, jo vi\u0146\u0161 jau agr\u0101k teica presei, ka j\u0101ierosina krimin\u0101llieta. Parakstus par partijas dibin\u0101\u0161anu s\u0101ka v\u0101kt jau pusgadu iepriek\u0161. Daugavpil\u012b bija parakst\u012bju\u0161ies veci cilv\u0113ki, kuri jau pa to laiku bija miru\u0161i. Prokurat\u016bra to visu bija p\u0101rbaud\u012bjusi, un nebija t\u0101, ka b\u016btu ierakst\u012bts, kur\u0161 ir jau miris. Ta\u010du presei pazi\u0146oja, ka Stendzenieks kr\u0101pjas un pin iek\u0161\u0101 miru\u0161as dv\u0113seles. Un visp\u0101r \u2014 k\u0101p\u0113c t\u0101du partiju v\u0113l ar vi\u0146u dibin\u0101t. Tom\u0113r \u012bsi pirms atk\u0101rtot\u0101 aresta man bija telefonsaruna ar M\u0101ri Gr\u012bnblatu. Es vi\u0146am piezvan\u012bju un teicu, ka god\u012bgi iev\u0113roju noteikumus un nek\u0101dus kompromit\u0113jo\u0161us materi\u0101lus neizplatu. Un vaic\u0101ju, k\u0101p\u0113c vi\u0146i man trauc\u0113 iet politisk\u0101 c\u012b\u0146\u0101. Vi\u0146\u0161 man atbild\u0113ja: “Tu jau zini, kas ir partijas kontaktpersona, run\u0101 ar Laku\u010du.” M\u0113s s\u0101k\u0101m konflikt\u0113t, nolam\u0101jos. Tad vi\u0146\u0161 teica: “Stendzeniek, tu p\u0101r\u0101k daudz iedom\u0101jies. Tev nek\u0101das varas nav, un m\u0113s tevi ieb\u0101z\u012bsim atpaka\u013c tur, kur tu biji.” Manupr\u0101t, nobijusies bija ar\u012b Tautas parti-ja \u2014 man bija inform\u0101cija, ka \u0160\u0137\u0113le esot teicis: “Stendzenieku nek\u0101d\u0101 gad\u012bjum\u0101 nevar ielaist parlament\u0101.” Tom\u0113r saruna man ir bijusi ar “t\u0113vzemie\u0161iem”. T\u0101 k\u0101 es ar Gr\u012bnblatu k\u0101rt\u012bgi sastr\u012bd\u0113jos, vi\u0146\u0161 saprata, ka gad\u012bjum\u0101, ja iek\u013c\u016b\u0161u parlament\u0101, ar mani b\u016bs j\u0101r\u0113\u0137in\u0101s. 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No miljoniem l\u012bdz cietumam - Edmunds Im\u0161a","robots":{"index":"index","follow":"follow","max-snippet":"max-snippet:-1","max-image-preview":"max-image-preview:large","max-video-preview":"max-video-preview:-1"},"canonical":"https:\/\/edmundsimsa.com\/?p=2476","og_locale":"en_US","og_type":"article","og_title":"Armands Stendzenieks. No miljoniem l\u012bdz cietumam - Edmunds Im\u0161a","og_description":"Armands Stendzenieks. No miljoniem l\u012bdz cietumam Edmunds Im\u0161a, Galvenais redaktors – Vakara Av\u012bze Vakara\u00a0Zi\u0146as Pirm\u0101 Da\u013ca Intervija ar Armandu Stendzenieku notiek Liep\u0101jas cietuma kamer\u0101. Pils\u0113t\u0101, kur\u0101 piedzimst v\u0113j\u0161, cietums ir mazs un t\u012brs. Pagalm\u0101 aug skuju koki, gaite\u0146i gandr\u012bz vai priec\u0113 ar t\u012br\u012bbu. Pats Stendzenieks par godu intervijai ir saposies k\u0101 uz Operu \u2014 lab\u0101 uzvalk\u0101, ar kaklasaiti, t\u012bri sk\u016bts \u2014 un nemaz neatg\u0101dina klasisku cietumnieku, par kuriem iedom\u0101joties pr\u0101t\u0101 n\u0101k rokudzel\u017ei un sv\u012btrainas dr\u0113bes. Vi\u0146\u0161 pat pied\u0101v\u0101 \u0161\u0137\u012bsto\u0161o kafiju un vafe\u013cu torti. St\u0101stot mazliet nervoz\u0113. Ieslodz\u012bjum\u0101 bez noties\u0101jo\u0161a tiesas sprieduma vi\u0146\u0161 pavad\u012bjis jau piecus gadus. \u2014 K\u0101d\u0113\u013c j\u016bs atrodaties cietum\u0101? \u2014 Es uzskatu, ka mana lieta ir politiski safabric\u0113ta un pamats ir viens \u2014 da\u017eiem cilv\u0113kiem Latvij\u0101 bija svar\u012bgi p\u0101r\u0146emt manu \u012bpa\u0161umu, p\u0101r\u0146emt lielas naudas summas, kas pieder\u0113ja man, un neatdot. \u2014 J\u016bsu \u012bpa\u0161umus ir p\u0101r\u0146\u0113mu\u0161i citi cilv\u0113ki? \u2014 J\u0101, viss, kas man Latvij\u0101 ir pieder\u0113jis, ir likvid\u0113ts. Viss ir nojaukts. 1998. gad\u0101, kad mani “izlaida” no cietuma, kad nomain\u012bja dro\u0161\u012bbas l\u012bdzekli, es piln\u012bb\u0101 iev\u0113roju policijas uzraudz\u012bbu. Ne reizi no manas puses nebija nek\u0101du probl\u0113mu, bet taj\u0101 pa\u0161\u0101 laik\u0101 no \u0122ener\u0101lprokurat\u016bras zvan\u012bja un m\u0113\u0123in\u0101ja uztais\u012bt provok\u0101ciju par to, ka neesmu ieradies. Man bija sast\u0101d\u012bts saraksts, kad man j\u0101ierodas policij\u0101. Parasti dro\u0161\u012bbas l\u012bdzekli nemaina. Tad krimin\u0101llietu no\u0146\u0113ma (prokuroram Aleksandram) Stepanovam un nodeva t\u0101l\u0101k (Jurim) P\u0113dam. P\u0113da nomain\u012bja dro\u0161\u012bbas l\u012bdzekli atpaka\u013c, un vi\u0146\u0161 ar mani run\u0101ja, kad 18. decembr\u012b izsauca uz \u0122ener\u0101lprokurat\u016bru. Pied\u0101v\u0101jums bija t\u0101ds \u2014 vai nu es snieg\u0161u aps\u016bdzo\u0161as liec\u012bbas pret Ventspils grup\u0113jumu, vai ar\u012b es t\u016bl\u012bt ie\u0161u s\u0113d\u0113t, atk\u0101rtoti tiks main\u012bts dro\u0161\u012bbas l\u012bdzeklis. “Tu b\u016bsi atpaka\u013c cietum\u0101,” vi\u0146\u0161 teica. Es teicu, ka neredzu nek\u0101du pamatu, k\u0101p\u0113c man var\u0113tu main\u012bt dro\u0161\u012bbas l\u012bdzekli. Man iebilda, ka es maldos. “Prokurat\u016bra daudz ko var izdar\u012bt, tev tikai \u0161\u0137iet, ka neko nevar izdar\u012bt.” Re\u0101li jau pat apsardze bija nolikta kabinet\u0101. \u2014 Vai j\u016bs varat atkl\u0101t, kuri bija tie cilv\u0113ki, kas v\u0113l\u0113j\u0101s p\u0101r\u0146emt j\u016bsu mantu? \u2014 J\u0101, protams. 1998. gad\u0101 bija vair\u0101kas vieno\u0161an\u0101s. Mani atbr\u012bvoja un nomain\u012bja dro\u0161\u012bbas l\u012bdzekli, man uzdeva jaut\u0101jumu, vai es piedal\u012b\u0161os politik\u0101? Es teicu, ka noteikti piedal\u012b\u0161os, un man ar (Gunta) Indriksona starpniec\u012bbu tika uzdots jaut\u0101jums, vai neesmu ar mieru sa\u0146emt finansi\u0101lu kompens\u0101ciju un pazust no Latvijas. Es atbild\u0113ju, ka neesmu ar mieru aizbrauk un noteikti gribu piedal\u012bties politiskaj\u0101 darb\u012bb\u0101. Ja netiek trauc\u0113ta mana piedal\u012b\u0161an\u0101s politiskaj\u0101 c\u012b\u0146\u0101, es ar\u012b atsakos izmantot jebk\u0101dus kompromit\u0113jo\u0161us materi\u0101lus, un tad b\u016btu vienk\u0101r\u0161a god\u012bga politisk\u0101 c\u012b\u0146a. Toreiz netic\u0113ju, ka l\u012bdz rudenim (maij\u0101 nomain\u012bja dro\u0161\u012bbas l\u012bdzekli) sp\u0113\u0161u nodibin\u0101t politisko partiju (Latvijas Tautas varas partiju jeb LTVP. \u2014 E. I.). Praktiski es to sp\u0113ju, biju jau noorganiz\u0113jis, un tad, kad biju pa\u0146\u0113mis telev\u012bzij\u0101 lab\u0101kos rekl\u0101mas laikus, ac\u012bmredzot k\u0101ds saprata, ka Stendzenieks ir p\u0101r\u0101k b\u012bstams un mani j\u0101liek atpaka\u013c cietum\u0101. (LTVP bija nopirkusi p\u0113d\u0113jo “rull\u012bti” rekl\u0101mas blok\u0101 pirms raid\u012bjuma “Panor\u0101ma” partijas politisk\u0101s a\u0123it\u0101cijas rekl\u0101mai, kuru saska\u0146\u0101 ar l\u012bgumu p\u0101rraid\u012btu 83 dienas \u2014 no13. j\u016blija l\u012bdz oktobrim, visas septi\u0146as dienas ned\u0113\u013c\u0101.) \u2014 Jums ir versija, kas pie\u0146\u0113ma \u0161o l\u0113mumu? \u2014 Protams, ka man ir versijas. Bet jaut\u0101jums ir cits \u2014 k\u0101d\u0101 veid\u0101 tika risin\u0101ts jaut\u0101jums par partijas dibin\u0101\u0161anu. Bija god\u012bgi norun\u0101ts, ka es norm\u0101li piedal\u012b\u0161os c\u012b\u0146\u0101 un nevienu “neaizskar\u0161u”. Ta\u010du taj\u0101 laik\u0101, kad tieslietu ministrs bija (TB\/LNNK biedrs Dzintars) Rasna\u010ds, vi\u0146\u0161 run\u0101ja par manas partijas miru\u0161aj\u0101m dv\u0113sel\u0113m. (P\u0101rbaud\u0113, sal\u012bdzinot ar Iedz\u012bvot\u0101ju re\u0123istra zi\u0146\u0101m, tika konstat\u0113ts, ka partijas dibin\u0101t\u0101ju vid\u016b ir divas miru\u0161as personas. \u2014 E. I.) V\u0113l taj\u0101 pa\u0161\u0101 laik\u0101 man ar (Normundu) Laku\u010du no “t\u0113vzemie\u0161iem” tika nodots, ka man j\u0101noliek 50 t\u016bksto\u0161i dol\u0101ru, lai visp\u0101r var\u0113tu partiju re\u0123istr\u0113t. Laku\u010ds run\u0101ja partijas v\u0101rd\u0101, tik\u0101mies person\u012bgi. M\u0113s run\u0101j\u0101m, ka mani neviens netrauc\u0113s politiskaj\u0101 c\u012b\u0146\u0101 un es ar\u012b nevienu netrauc\u0113\u0161u. Lai sak\u0101rtotu jaut\u0101jumus, m\u0113s tik\u0101mies M\u0113ness un C\u0113su ielas krustojum\u0101. Vi\u0146\u0161 teica, ka vajag no manis tos 50 t\u016bksto\u0161us un visi partiju jaut\u0101jumi b\u016bs nok\u0101rtoti, un ar\u012b Rasna\u010ds vairs neuzst\u0101sies. Vi\u0146\u0161 (Laku\u010ds) it k\u0101 tur neko nevarot kontrol\u0113t, jo Rasna\u010ds pats it k\u0101 pie\u0146\u0113mis l\u0113mumus. Es teicu: 50 \u2014 tas ir par traku, bet konkr\u0113t\u0101k jau b\u016bs 30 t\u016bksto\u0161i. N\u0101kamaj\u0101 vakar\u0101 man nauda bija j\u0101atnes. Es atnesu naudu, vi\u0146\u0161 teica, lai nolieku. Pirmaj\u0101 reiz\u0113 vi\u0146\u0161 ierad\u0101s mazliet “ie\u0161vilpis” un run\u0101ja ma\u0161\u012bn\u0101, bet otraj\u0101 reiz\u0113 vi\u0146\u0161 atteic\u0101s run\u0101t man\u0101 ma\u0161\u012bn\u0101. Izk\u0101p\u0101m \u0101r\u0101, un vi\u0146\u0161 teica: noliec naudu uz s\u0113dek\u013ca (sav\u0101 ma\u0161\u012bn\u0101).Vi\u0146\u0161 atbrauca ar savu ma\u0161\u012bnu, es \u2014 ar savu (\u012br\u0113tu). Izk\u0101p\u0101m \u0101r\u0101 un run\u0101j\u0101m. Es: “K\u0101 b\u016bs ar dokumentu re\u0123istr\u0101ciju?” Vi\u0146\u0161: “Dar\u012bsim t\u0101! Dokumentus tu sa\u0146emsi p\u0113d\u0113j\u0101 dien\u0101 pirms partiju sarakstu iesnieg\u0161anas v\u0113l\u0113\u0161an\u0101m V\u0113l\u0113\u0161anu komisijai.” Es: “Normund, t\u0101 tas neiet. T\u0101d\u0101 gad\u012bjum\u0101 j\u016bs dro\u0161i vien esat nol\u0113mu\u0161i vai nu p\u0113d\u0113j\u0101 dien\u0101 man atdot tos 30 t\u016bksto\u0161us, vai ar\u012b, slikt\u0101k\u0101 gad\u012bjum\u0101, man pateikt, ka nekas nesan\u0101ca. Ja t\u0101, es naudu neatst\u0101ju.” Neko nesamaks\u0101jis, g\u0101ju citu ce\u013cu, iesniedzu otrreiz dokumentus, bet tos man atkal “nogrieza”. \u2014 Tad jau t\u0101 lo\u0123ika ir t\u0101da, ka Rasna\u010ds un vi\u0146a partijas biedrs aizliedza jums dibin\u0101t partiju, jo nesamaks\u0101j\u0101t? \u2014 J\u0101, jo vi\u0146\u0161 jau agr\u0101k teica presei, ka j\u0101ierosina krimin\u0101llieta. Parakstus par partijas dibin\u0101\u0161anu s\u0101ka v\u0101kt jau pusgadu iepriek\u0161. Daugavpil\u012b bija parakst\u012bju\u0161ies veci cilv\u0113ki, kuri jau pa to laiku bija miru\u0161i. Prokurat\u016bra to visu bija p\u0101rbaud\u012bjusi, un nebija t\u0101, ka b\u016btu ierakst\u012bts, kur\u0161 ir jau miris. Ta\u010du presei pazi\u0146oja, ka Stendzenieks kr\u0101pjas un pin iek\u0161\u0101 miru\u0161as dv\u0113seles. Un visp\u0101r \u2014 k\u0101p\u0113c t\u0101du partiju v\u0113l ar vi\u0146u dibin\u0101t. Tom\u0113r \u012bsi pirms atk\u0101rtot\u0101 aresta man bija telefonsaruna ar M\u0101ri Gr\u012bnblatu. Es vi\u0146am piezvan\u012bju un teicu, ka god\u012bgi iev\u0113roju noteikumus un nek\u0101dus kompromit\u0113jo\u0161us materi\u0101lus neizplatu. Un vaic\u0101ju, k\u0101p\u0113c vi\u0146i man trauc\u0113 iet politisk\u0101 c\u012b\u0146\u0101. Vi\u0146\u0161 man atbild\u0113ja: “Tu jau zini, kas ir partijas kontaktpersona, run\u0101 ar Laku\u010du.” M\u0113s s\u0101k\u0101m konflikt\u0113t, nolam\u0101jos. Tad vi\u0146\u0161 teica: “Stendzeniek, tu p\u0101r\u0101k daudz iedom\u0101jies. Tev nek\u0101das varas nav, un m\u0113s tevi ieb\u0101z\u012bsim atpaka\u013c tur, kur tu biji.” Manupr\u0101t, nobijusies bija ar\u012b Tautas parti-ja \u2014 man bija inform\u0101cija, ka \u0160\u0137\u0113le esot teicis: “Stendzenieku nek\u0101d\u0101 gad\u012bjum\u0101 nevar ielaist parlament\u0101.” Tom\u0113r saruna man ir bijusi ar “t\u0113vzemie\u0161iem”. T\u0101 k\u0101 es ar Gr\u012bnblatu k\u0101rt\u012bgi sastr\u012bd\u0113jos, vi\u0146\u0161 saprata, ka gad\u012bjum\u0101, ja iek\u013c\u016b\u0161u parlament\u0101, ar mani b\u016bs j\u0101r\u0113\u0137in\u0101s. 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